Jon was talking about that Bed Of Roses took some time, that he went and rewrote Beautiful Drug, that American Reckoning took him a long time (he rewrote that at least 3 times), that Lower The Flag was written but the bridge (all of the listing of the cities) came 3 or 4 days later when he had the thought to do that, that Blood In The Water probably took him a week to write, that Halo "I co-wrote that one with Billy Falcon, and we tried and we tried; and we kept rewritten it, working on the second day the third day on the studio. Chorus is great verses isn't great, verses is great chorus isn't right", that Let It Rain was a song that he wrote and rewrote a couple of times, and then he mentioned Shine.
So yeah it's probably the same Shine of What About Now. And remember that the album The Circle was going to be called: Shine.