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Old 11-06-2024, 01:22 AM
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Another guitarless album with very weak vocals vocal... Yeah not going crazy for it.
I love the man's lyrics but I'm not sure he has much left to say, at least not without recycling more lyrics.
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Old 11-07-2024, 12:02 PM
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They released The Peoples House with War & Treaty, but this was never going to result in the album taking off. If they did a duo on Living in Paradise with Ed Sheeran or released another Forever song with someone who gets millions of streams each week, then there would be a boost.

I know he says he's not chasing top 40 anymore, but if the record company thinks they can make an extra buck, it will happen.

Or a new Netflix movie may have someone doing a crazy dance to Raise Your Hands and get that streaming...
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Old 11-07-2024, 07:46 PM
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There is no commercial upside to release "best" or fanbase favourite song from album as a worldwide single. But, my opinion is that there is a commercial upside to release (hard) rock song with hook in Europe and South America as single. Living Proof made it to radio in Europe with basically zero promotion and push, making some noise in rock circles.

Same could have happened with Brokenpromiseland or Any Other Day for example. No big hits there, but a reminder to general rock audience that Jovi is not only WWBTF, Because We Can or following turds released as first singles that they catch on radio while driving to work in the morning.
But again, based on what? Why do we think there's some magical formula behind those songs that will make people think "These guys are still alright"? Those singles aren't turds on the same level that any other song isn't going to change peoples minds about the band. The cache and novelty of IML long wore off by 2010. Who Says was received well, but the country version. 2010 on wasn't about bad singles, it was about and oversaturated band that needed to go away and take longer between projects. All in my own opinion.
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Old 11-07-2024, 09:54 PM
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But again, based on what? Why do we think there's some magical formula behind those songs that will make people think "These guys are still alright"? Those singles aren't turds on the same level that any other song isn't going to change peoples minds about the band. The cache and novelty of IML long wore off by 2010. Who Says was received well, but the country version. 2010 on wasn't about bad singles, it was about and oversaturated band that needed to go away and take longer between projects. All in my own opinion.
I'm not disagreeing with anything you wrote here. Perhaps to be more direct: I think, in Europe, there is a large cohort of general (rock) audience that is not actively following Jovi but ofc know of them, know the hits, will listen radio when new or old Jovi song comes on and will, in varying degree, buy new stuff or merch or go on a stadium in summer tour.

But what comes on after HAND until now from new stuff is basically tired, AC pop or some turd (IMO) that is trying to catch completely different markets. In our earlier discussions I got the sense that it's completely different in the US.

My intuition is that releasing to radio and some promo (for example, when tour hits Europe) a song that is more akin to rock sound would do some good in legacy and general opinion terms (not necessarily commercial, especially as years go by). Case in point is Living proof in fact, it rocked some boats, it was all over the rock radio in Italy (which is a big part of major mainstream radio in Europe) when it was released, podcasts were talking about Jovi being back to rock roots, etc. And it was not even promoted at all.

It's easy to say now after the fact, but releasing Any Other Day or Brokenpromiseland or Blood in the Water in Europe would not bring new hit singles by any measure, but would bring some credentials (similar how Hey God or Saturday Night or Dry County brought it in the 90s). Again, my take ofc, not a fact
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Old 11-09-2024, 10:45 AM
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I don't think that BJ should release another Album. They had a great career but I think it's time to call it day- Release the boxset next year but no new Songs. The Band can't Tour as Jon can't sing and singing Playback isn't an Option.
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"Forever" proved he can write good songs ( Waves, being one) so I am not averse JBJ continuing on making another Album(s) whether with Bon Jovi or Solo....
Listen to Chris Stapleton's White Horse and skip to the chorus. It's pretty obvious where Jon drew his "inspiration" from in regards to Waves. Even the sound and build up of both songs is similar.

Jon Bon Jovi doesn't have an audience left interested in new songs. He released a brand new album with a documentary and made headlines with Sambora's statement, his incapability of singing and him talking someone from jumping off a bridge. All while his album tanked despite him being all over the media and doing loads of press.

In order to get people interested again Jon would have to come up with something original, great vocals and a lead guitarist who adds something to his songs. He has none of this and would never be able to put himself second so is beyond saving, regardless as to how great the quality of songs will be.

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Yeah... it's sad but I too think it's time for Jon to hang up the mic. He had a great career, way longer than expected after the first two records; lots of number one songs and albums, tons of concerts all over the world. Sold out every single time. They should've retired after The Circle imo, making some appearances here and there when truly needed. Richie could've gone solo without issues and maybe Jon would've gone gray a little bit later.
He destroyed his vocal chords early on and still, through ups and downs his voice held up incredibly well until 2011. It's a miracle it lasted that long.
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I think Jon and Bon Jovi should release many more albums, how much they want and feel necessary. They are not making long term impact on charts and relevancy anymore anyhow, so they should just do whatever they want basically.

Realisation that he doesn't need to chase the hit or charts could even have very good effect on Jon's passion for music and/or quality of songs. Me personally, I'll always take a listen to whatever he brings to the table. I remain critical on how Jovi developed since 2007, but now it's over with that when you consider age, voice and context of music business.
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Of course Jon gotta continue releasing new albums.

The point is that there aren’t big problems in the recording studio, it’s not touring live for 2-3hours.

Jon still wants write new songs and I’m happy with it.

Maybe some people doesn’t like new BJ albums, but overall BJ music is better than a lot of music out there by others artists in my humble opinion.

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Old 11-13-2024, 08:24 AM
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Of course Jon gotta continue releasing new albums.

The point is that there aren’t big problems in the recording studio, it’s not touring live for 2-3hours.

Jon still wants write new songs and I’m happy with it.

Maybe some people doesn’t like new BJ albums, but overall BJ music is better than a lot of music out there by others artists in my humble opinion.
I would love new BJ Albums too, but under only one condition: Jon should ditch Shanks as a producer, because in my opinion the quality of the albums have suffered too much. I mean what's the point of having a guitar player in the band, when a guy like Shanks tones them down o the point were there barely audible? I miss guitar driven songs like they had on good records like Bounce and in the end Seeds, Waves and Living Proof weren't enough for me to listen to Forever more.

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