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Old 11-28-2010, 08:36 PM
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GH dropped quite a bit in the Swedish charts this week to No. 17 whilst Bruce remains at No 1 for the second week with The Promise (outtakes) and has sold Gold here in Sweden.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:05 PM
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GH dropped quite a bit in the Swedish charts this week to No. 17 whilst Bruce remains at No 1 for the second week with The Promise (outtakes) and has sold Gold here in Sweden.
sweden really loves bruce because that cd is not a common cd right ? i went to virgin store yesterday it was well presented there too
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:15 PM
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:23 PM
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sweden really loves bruce because that cd is not a common cd right ? i went to virgin store yesterday it was well presented there too
No I'm actually quite surprised that it is selling this well considering it's only outtakes, but yes we do love Bruce here. Even the London Calling DVD climbed back up the charts to No 5 when the Darkness box was released.
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:32 AM
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I am surprised lost highway didnt do better than crush and then than GH as it was advertised as a HUGE SUCCESS in australia
I think it hit a nerve when I read comments like rightly so .. it's matter of taste not of quality ..bon jovi is more popular in autralia as I can see from the numbers you gave us ...
but I still don't believe bon jovi is more popular world wide but then again i am from a country that is taking bruce much more highly better quality music than bon jovi and maybe it is not nice neither to necesseraly put artists ins boxes .. cheap vs quality etc (i think bon jovi is much more upbeat and easy listening than bruce ... the message is much more 'intellectual' from bruce not the same audience is for sure ....)

I see world wide the GH doing a great impact for bon jovi and I am having the feeling the guys themselves didnt PLAN than one ....it says they have a big selling power in countries they are not bother visiting much for the last decade ... funny always they choose to have a break now after visiting countries they usually don't (just like These days after an extended tour world wide )

I do feel those extended tour are just to make last chance money after a crisis
Oh, my "rightly so" comment was me being a smart ass because I like BJ way more than Bruce. Maybe I should have put a ":P" at the end to show it was meant in a joking way haha.

I cant speak for the rest of the world, but BJ are bigger in Australia than Bruce, although Bruce is still very popular.

As for the long break, I think they always do it after big tours because they need it lol. Such a massive world tour deserves a long break.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:48 AM
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Umm, Lost Highway debuted at #5 here and stayed in the charts I think 8 weeks or something? Then when they toured here it entered again at #2.

Bruce's latest release aside, Bon Jovi are (I believe) a lot more popular than him here in Australia. They sell more shows, chart higher and get played on radio more often. Not to say Bruce isnt popular here, because he definately is... but Bon Jovi are more popular (from what I can tell).
BJ are a million times more popular over here than Bruce. Mention Bon Jovi to any ten year old and it's likely they'll know exactly who you are talking about and will even be able to sing you a few bars of Bad Name or Prayer.

Ask a ten year old who Bruce is and they'll look at you with no idea whatsoever.
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Springsteen is my favourite artist, with Bon Jovi being a very close second. But I agree that worldwide, Bon Jovi are definitely more popular and recognizable than Bruce. It may surprise most of you here, but during the SoundScan era (late 1991 onwards), Bon Jovi has sold more albums in the U.S. than Springsteen according to Billboard.

Generally speaking, there are European territories where Bruce is definitely more popular than Bon Jovi. One such example is France. Bruce can play multiple nights at a stadium in France, but Bon Jovi has never been able to headline a stadium show over there. But in parts of the world like South America, Asia Pacific, Bruce doesn't even come close to Bon Jovi's popularity. Even U2 can't touch them in Japan. And in North America, Bon Jovi has lately proven to be more in demand than Bruce with the exception of the East Coast, but they are quite close over there as well.

However it should be noted that Bon Jovi's brand of rock is more commercial than what Springsteen plays, so it's not surprising really that BJ has done better than Bruce in purely commercial terms lately.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:57 PM
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Springsteen is my favourite artist, with Bon Jovi being a very close second. But I agree that worldwide, Bon Jovi are definitely more popular and recognizable than Bruce. It may surprise most of you here, but during the SoundScan era (late 1991 onwards), Bon Jovi has sold more albums in the U.S. than Springsteen according to Billboard.

Generally speaking, there are European territories where Bruce is definitely more popular than Bon Jovi. One such example is France. Bruce can play multiple nights at a stadium in France, but Bon Jovi has never been able to headline a stadium show over there. But in parts of the world like South America, Asia Pacific, Bruce doesn't even come close to Bon Jovi's popularity. Even U2 can't touch them in Japan. And in North America, Bon Jovi has lately proven to be more in demand than Bruce with the exception of the East Coast, but they are quite close over there as well.

However it should be noted that Bon Jovi's brand of rock is more commercial than what Springsteen plays, so it's not surprising really that BJ has done better than Bruce in purely commercial terms lately.
I don't know where you got your source but for some parts it is not true ...at least not for france ....bruce cannot sell le stade de france that well (unlike U2) ... but there is no competition with bon jovi because bon jovi is definitely not taken seriously here no one dares to say bon jovi is possible to be compared to bruce or U2 for some reasons the guys (bj) have the worst reputation among the french media and I don't know why exactly something happened at some point but I don't know ...

and about japan bruce is not going there much so he is not <<IN>> .... japan is a country interesting (and a country I know VERY WELL) if you go there at the beginning of your career and go back every year and always accept all the things they ask you to do (weird tv shows etc )and show them a special respect then you will be protected and cheered ...bon jovi popularity is very much declining today because for a little while now the band seems not that much accepting to treat japan like they are the most special fans in the world ..if they keep doing this way I predict the end of a golden era for bon jovi in japan ... japanese ppl are open to everything that is coming from the outside as long as those coming to them are 'nice ' to them more than playing a music that please them .. well I could say any artist could play anything.... to become popular in japan it is not the most important the most important is to be nice to them to show them interest and respect then you will be safe ....

I am married to my hubby for almost 30 years - he is japanese - I know them pretty well ... I recall a funny story about who is a good person and who is not for him ... for example he loves tom cruise and hates bruce willis .. why ... because tom cruise is smiling and polite and all and bruce willis is just himself and he once said something that was somehow making fun of the japanese culture (it was not a major insult but he noticed it enough to make a bad person of him) I have read more than once in the last 5 or 6 years articles and interviews were the band was making 'fun' of the japanese .. it is not good ... I have seen a few tv shows were you could see how much jon showed he wanted to leave the set and go back home if I was able to feel it the japanese audience was able to ...... respect and interest is the KEY to be popular in japan ....U2 cannot compete they are not going to japan that much .. it's not like japan don't want them so they don't got it's the other way around .... japan accept anyone but you have to show a special devotion to the country if you want to be huge there ....

I wouldnt bet on the huge success of bon jovi in japan that much anymore
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:06 PM
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bruce music is much more intellectual than bon jovi he doesnt sell to kids unless those are very 'politically responsible' if you know what i mean ... bruce is maybe not at all popular in australia maybe because they are not after that sort of music ...maybe like me they prefer songs that are just easy to sing along la la la la la la

about the long break after such a long tour IMO it's the other way around they do a long tour like for these days to try to 're-gain' the money they were losing in their main market (the usa) and then after that they understand like after these days that they need to take a break to be able to come back to their main market (the usa) for me it's clear it's not the big tour that make them stop but the fact they had to do a big tour because the usa only wouldnt have make the trick this time that make them stop (most artists that make extended tours once in a while do that to try to fix a lack of gross in their usual main market) to see them go really world wide is usually an alarm of not enough gross for the guys so they stop to not over flood their market and act like a suicide
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Apart from the poor cd sales, touring wise bj doent seem to have any problem in north america. i follow the band closely and there hasnt been one show in us that sold poorly, unlike in europe, through the stadium lh tour.
bj always knew that they are a worldwide band, they show interest in japan-europe-australia and s.america from the beggining of their career, very few contemporary acts were smart enough to focus in certain-more prolific and accessible marketss, and that really paid off for them during the grunge period in us, obviously bj are overexposed- the audience and tha band need a break but i dont think they add new countries because they couldnt play arenas in dallas-miami-la-texas-nashville one more time.
the japan shows will be sold out, around 90.000 people will attend, this can be seen as a failure only by michael jackson's standards in japan...i realise that they may were more popular in the past but obviously the band hasnt focused in that market the recent years, and after the break and with some promo i m sure they d be able to play 4-5 domes like they did the past tours, the program and not the dicline of their popularity is to blame for the less dates in my opinion and having fewer dates may help the interest in the next visit. who knew for sure some years back that bj were still that popular in australia? they ve done a small tour with lost highway and now multiple stadiums, i consider the same will happen after some years with south america by the way were there was more demand in many countries

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