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Originally Posted by steel_horse75
I'll tell you one change I'd make - after the first chorus I wouldn't have the "I'm coming home" bit I'd have it after 2nd chorus
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Veto.
"You know, that big, hooky singalong? We don't need that one three times, twice is plenty."
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi
The problem is that they have worked for so many years and so closely that at the end of the day we have the vision of John Shanks on the album
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Are you willingly contradicting yourself?
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi
I see him more of an executer of Jon's vision rather than an influence or power of positive change. In one of shank's tweets once he said something like hey i do as the artist wants, if they want rock we do rock if they want pop then thats what we do.
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Shanks does exactly as he's told. It's Jon's vision.
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi
Then there is the John Shanks co- writer, which is influencing much more than for example other producer would do it outside.
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Max Martin co-wrote and produced IML as well. Your point?
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi
They need a less artificial producer, just a change of scenery, and not seek other producers as Shanks (Rick Parashar, Dann Huff or Howard Benson), they need a renovator producer for distance itself from this pop sound.
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So you want Bon Jovi to hire not "another producer" (how is Howard Benson a producer similar to Shanks, btw? Check their respective discographies), but a producer who
a) Will tell them what to do
b) Will tell them to do what you want them to do
c) Which is to rock again
That would be the definition of "the band has no artistic vision of their own, they just do as the producer tells them to do".
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi
And above all, if the band has a supposed guitarist (Phil X), he must play on the album, and not the producer: John Shanks.
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Must Alec play bass on the albums, too? (Although yeah, I'd prefer Phil's playing. But "must"?)
08-13-2016, 08:20 AM
