Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community
Home Register Members FAQ
 

Living Proof - New song snippet

New Bon Jovi Releases


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #331  
Old 05-23-2024, 08:10 PM
jovifan85 jovifan85 is offline
Senior Member
Jovi Addict
 
Join Date: 11 Mar 2013
Gender: male
Posts: 495
Default

[QUOTE=bonjovi_cro;1292300]Also I don't think its the "end of the band", but I agree with general sentiment. Crush, except for IML, was such a missed album with passe sounds of previous years. IML catapulted them back into global icon stratosphere but also into boy band young teens preference. Without it, I presume Jovi would become something as a 2nd tier arena band, perhaps like Def Leppard or something.

Today their are a 2nd tier, and JBJ is happy...if he ever makes another hit, great but is just happy making Albums....Live Touring is a different matter......

Though you feel he wants to get-out there before the farewell Tour.....We shall see if it could happen before that happens.

Yes, JBJ said he's happy, if he couldn't go back out.....No, he wants to at least say farewell....that will happen even if the worse scenario plays-out which I hoping doesn't.....

Last edited by jovifan85; 05-23-2024 at 08:17 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #332  
Old 05-23-2024, 08:18 PM
bonjovi_cro's Avatar
bonjovi_cro bonjovi_cro is offline
Senior Member
Born to be my Baby
 
Join Date: 14 Nov 2007
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Age: 31
Gender: male
Posts: 596
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jovifan85 View Post
Today their are a 2nd tier, and JBJ is happy...if he ever makes another hit, great but is just happy making Albums....Live Touring is a different matter......

Though you feel he wants to get-out there before the farewell Tour.....We shall see if it could happen before that happens.
Yeah but it's different in year 40 versus in year 16. I'ts very,very hard to obtain a hit song in 60's, not impossible, but very hard. Difference between Prayer and Crush in years is less than from The Circle until Forever.

IML was basically a miracle for an aging band (as it was seen then) that had rather commercially unsuccessful tour (by their standards) in 1995 in US. While still big in rest of the world, IML really did fuel everything and then work ethic of Jon in next decade did establish Jovi as a foothold iconic rock stadium band, even though critics and media would always downplay their position.

Today, it's even a miracle they exist, and in this I have a positive sentiment. With a semblence of a voice back, a new documentary, new album that seems not to be complete shit as WAN or whatever, I am genuinely excited, and I hope for 2025 tour in Europe. I'm convinced they will pull big, stadium crowds still on their own.
__________________
I'm full of dust and guitars.
Reply With Quote
  #333  
Old 05-23-2024, 08:22 PM
jovifan85 jovifan85 is offline
Senior Member
Jovi Addict
 
Join Date: 11 Mar 2013
Gender: male
Posts: 495
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi_cro View Post
Yeah but it's different in year 40 versus in year 16. I'ts very,very hard to obtain a hit song in 60's, not impossible, but very hard. Difference between Prayer and Crush in years is less than from The Circle until Forever.

IML was basically a miracle for an aging band (as it was seen then) that had rather commercially unsuccessful tour (by their standards) in 1995 in US. While still big in rest of the world, IML really did fuel everything and then work ethic of Jon in next decade did establish Jovi as a foothold iconic rock stadium band, even though critics and media would always downplay their position.

Today, it's even a miracle they exist, and in this I have a positive sentiment. With a semblence of a voice back, a new documentary, new album that seems not to be complete shit as WAN or whatever, I am genuinely excited, and I hope for 2025 tour in Europe. I'm convinced they will pull big, stadium crowds still on their own.
I don't expect Bon Jovi to fill 40,000+ stadiums, well perhaps if it was a farewell. It will be a small venue if he can get back-out....A farewell is completely different everyone will want to see them, whatever happens regarding JBJ's voice....
Reply With Quote
  #334  
Old 05-23-2024, 08:29 PM
Butters's Avatar
Butters Butters is offline
Senior Member
These Days
 
Join Date: 17 Oct 2006
Age: 38
Gender: male
Posts: 2,428
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoviForever View Post
Even with Crush it was a downward trend. If it wasn’t for Its My Life that album would have been the end of the band. No other memorable songs whatsoever (IMO) and certainly no other songs with hit potential.
I tend to agree but I wish we had the chance to see how Just Older would have performed as a single.
__________________
These days the stars seem out of reach
But these days there ain't a ladder on these streets
These days are fast, love don't last in this graceless age
Even innocence has caught the midnight train
And there ain't nobody left but us these days
Reply With Quote
  #335  
Old 05-23-2024, 08:36 PM
bonjovi_cro's Avatar
bonjovi_cro bonjovi_cro is offline
Senior Member
Born to be my Baby
 
Join Date: 14 Nov 2007
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Age: 31
Gender: male
Posts: 596
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jovifan85 View Post
I don't expect Bon Jovi to fill 40,000+ stadiums, well perhaps if it was a farewell. It will be a small venue if he can get back-out....A farewell is completely different everyone will want to see them, whatever happens regarding JBJ's voice....
You don't think Jovi can bring 40k fans in stadiums in Europe in 2025 on Forever Tour for example? I think it's a given. He did it with less of a voice in 2019 and basically same levels of popularity
__________________
I'm full of dust and guitars.
Reply With Quote
  #336  
Old 05-23-2024, 09:00 PM
Captain_jovi's Avatar
Captain_jovi Captain_jovi is offline
Moderator
This Post Feels Right
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Age: 39
Gender: male
Posts: 14,162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi_cro View Post
You don't think Jovi can bring 40k fans in stadiums in Europe in 2025 on Forever Tour for example? I think it's a given. He did it with less of a voice in 2019 and basically same levels of popularity
2019 didn't have the media focus on his voice though. I don't think all that will hurt sales terribly but the doc focusing on "will his voice ever recover" will effect how much money people will shell out to see the next tour.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
Don't make the mistake of thinking that even 1% of Bon Jovi fans are like you, because they aren't. Don't think you know how Bon Jovi fans think. You don't. You know yourself. Stick to that.
Reply With Quote
  #337  
Old 05-23-2024, 09:22 PM
bonjovi_cro's Avatar
bonjovi_cro bonjovi_cro is offline
Senior Member
Born to be my Baby
 
Join Date: 14 Nov 2007
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Age: 31
Gender: male
Posts: 596
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi View Post
2019 didn't have the media focus on his voice though. I don't think all that will hurt sales terribly but the doc focusing on "will his voice ever recover" will effect how much money people will shell out to see the next tour.
That's true, he did in fact bring focus to his voice in general public eyes.

But still I think with few directed promos to assure the voice is tour worthy (as in 2013 worthy), it's going ahead and it's going to sell. Jovi will not be here for 6 years between 2019 and 2025, longest for basically ever. While market was arguably saturated between 2000 and 2013.
__________________
I'm full of dust and guitars.
Reply With Quote
  #338  
Old 05-23-2024, 10:36 PM
liljovi93's Avatar
liljovi93 liljovi93 is offline
Senior Member
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 27 Mar 2007
Location: Liverpool
Age: 31
Gender: male
Posts: 12,419
Send a message via MSN to liljovi93
Default

In my opinion, they should have released the album straight after the documentary because everyone wants to know what Jon sounds like now.

It's kind of all died off (or certainly in comparison) and I do think they really missed a trick. All people have said about the documentary is things about the vocal issues.

Bon Jovi will still sell stadiums.

Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk
__________________


Bon Jovi - Old Trafford - June 26th 2003
Bon Jovi - City Of Manchester Stadium - June 4th 2006
Bon Jovi - City Of Manchester Stadium - June 22nd 2008
Bon Jovi - Old Trafford Cricket Ground - June 24th 2011
Bon Jovi - City Of Manchester Stadium - June 8th 2013
Bon Jovi - Slane Castle - June 15th 2013
Bon Jovi - Hyde Park - July 5th 2013
Bon Jovi - London Palladium - October 10th 2016
Excuse me, has anyone got a bottle of orange juice?!


Not afraid of Burning Bridges, cause I know they're gonna light my way...
Reply With Quote
  #339  
Old 05-23-2024, 10:49 PM
semigoodlooking semigoodlooking is offline
Senior Member
Jovi Addict
 
Join Date: 04 Sep 2017
Gender: male
Posts: 516
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liljovi93 View Post
In my opinion, they should have released the album straight after the documentary because everyone wants to know what Jon sounds like now.

It's kind of all died off (or certainly in comparison) and I do think they really missed a trick. All people have said about the documentary is things about the vocal issues.

Bon Jovi will still sell stadiums.
I have been thinking this too. Obviously they wanted seperation of the products, but as the narrative of the documentary was so focused on Jon's journey, it would have been perfect to have the album ready.

Regarding a tour, Bon Jovi would sell a stadium tour in Europe. He did Wembley in 2018? when popularity in the band was at an all-time low. They had also spent the last 18 years saturating the market. I would say the documentary and time between major tours has warmed the audience again. Also, you could easily market the tour around Jon's voice IF it were improved. There has been general empathy towards him once the truth about his voice came out.

I have no doubts a stadium tour would sell well. In South America too, and potentially Oceania. Argentina, Brazil, and Chile always turn out. Then the standard tour in other markets like Japan and the US. Would it be an all-conquering global trek like years gone by? Probably not, but a successful tour absolutely is possible.

Edit to add, I remember for the THINFS tour people on this board were doubting the ability to do a stadium tour.

Last edited by semigoodlooking; 05-23-2024 at 10:51 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #340  
Old 05-24-2024, 11:14 PM
Santa Fe's Avatar
Santa Fe Santa Fe is offline
Senior Member
Keep the Faith
 
Join Date: 21 Jan 2007
Location: SPAIN
Age: 44
Gender: female
Posts: 987
Default

The explanation of Living Proof is up now
__________________
Long live to rock and roll!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
living proof


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.