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Old 03-21-2016, 12:44 AM
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No you didn't dream that. He was a manager AND there was talk of a label/alternative. Talk. But no one knew anything for sure. And we still don't. He might still be acting as manager. For all we know, he was a key player in getting them back with UMG.

As far as UMG not needing them, I scoff. Sure, there's no desire for a label to have the world's biggest touring act (on the years they tour) on their roster. Everyone knows album sales are going to be minimal in this day anyway, so at least they know Bon Jovi HAS an audience and their last several new albums have given UMG the top spot on the Billboard chart. Yeah... nothing appealing about that act. Nothing at all.
It's impossible to have a productive discussion with you about things like this Becky because you get defensive and refuse to admit that Jon has any faults. But you need to keep in mind it's not personal, it's business. The fact of the matter is Jon's voice is shot, Jon can't/won't move around a stage like he used to, the output from the band has been on a steady decline, Richie is gone, the height of their career is long in the past... There really isn't a whole lot here that UMG was probably in any rush to renew a contract with.

Jon was the one who said the old model wasn't working for him. What exactly about the model changed between BB and now? Nothing. I stand by my opinion... Jon needs UMG far more than they need him. He swallowed his pride and went back them.
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And not being able to see an album or a tour before early next year sure doesn't give the impression that UMG sees BJ as a priority.
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And not being able to see an album or a tour before early next year sure doesn't give the impression that UMG sees BJ as a priority.
Playing devil's advocate, scheduling major acts means holding off on things you know will need a bigger effort. It could mean they're actually do their job promoting and giving a crap about the next album. They'll have pre-planned priorities too and could want to schedule it's release at a time it'll do well.

That being said, the whole thing surprised me. If UMG doesn't see a cent of the touring revenue, keeping the band on its roster makes so little sense. It doesn't matter how well they do, not much of it actually concerns the company that distributes the album unless they're getting something else out of it.
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...(S)cheduling major acts means holding off on things you know will need a bigger effort...
But for the better part of twelve months when the album's ready now? Jon's original plan was to be touring again by early summer. On the other hand, it would give him time to grow and darken his hair...
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But for the better part of twelve months when the album's ready now? Jon's original plan was to be touring again by early summer. On the other hand, it would give him time to grow and darken his hair...
If they were recently re-signed the machine is already in motion promoting the other acts. They can't just drop what they're doing.

Also it's not really the better part of 12 months, if the album is out in the fall the label wouldn't have much do with the tour. For whatever reason the band wants to put out the album in the fall and start touring in 2017. I'm not sure why there'd be that much of a gap but they might want to do the opposite of WAN, playing a bunch of new songs BEFORE the album comes out because it didn't do them any good and alienated people who didn't know the material.
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Like any other business, things take twists and turns and get postponed... That's just how life goes

One thing I'd like to point out is, Jon stated that the tour will happen in February as long as everyone is health and he put the emphasis on "healthy"... My opinion is, he's talking about himself and more so his voice... Just my hunch..
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Like any other business, things take twists and turns and get postponed... That's just how life goes

One thing I'd like to point out is, Jon stated that the tour will happen in February as long as everyone is health and he put the emphasis on "healthy"... My opinion is, he's talking about himself and more so his voice... Just my hunch..
Oh yeah, speaking of the sudden "move" from mid-2016 to fall of the same year, you may just be right. There's a chance he'll use the gap to recuperate what's left of his voice...provided he doesn't go on Runaway trips that often.
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I hope he loses some weight so that he can move around more on tour.
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I would think that both UMG and JBJ had to reach a compromise. JBJ maybe wanted a 4-5 album contract and the label are a bit reluctant to give that nowadays.

Who cares what happened the band are back "home"
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I hope he loses some weight so that he can move around more on tour.
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