New Studio Album - Forever

It's wild to me that Legendary is placed in the same bin as Because We Can, and especially Limitless. To me, it's the most current sounding and catchiest single they have released in over a decade.

Part of the issue in my opinion is that we are mostly old and don't really want Bon Jovi to sound like current pop music.

Sounding current will not get them any more attention than putting out a hard rock album would, so therein lies the disconnect between long time fans and the band.

I also believe that they seem to have had a much "harder" sound in our minds than in reality. Their hardest sounding record overall is probably 7800, and there is no way they were ever going back to that sound again.

Their last "Rock" song was what? Undivided, which no one knows, or Have A Nice Day? 2002 or 2005?

That's just SO long ago now.




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Brothers In Arms

See now we circle back to labels. Some people consider In These Arms a ballad. Rock to one and rock to another gets a little muddy. I've heard people say Undivided was rock, others call it pop with guitars. Is Rock the intensity and agression? To ME I would say Devils in the Temple or some of the harder edge songs on 2020.

But this is all null and void, no one has heard those songs but the few that follow the albums. If we're talking SINGLES with actual releases and promo behind it...Everyday? Hey God?

After those shows in 2022, the press asking BJ to retire, and after saw Richie dressed like a potato on a TV show and selling smoke, I said on this forum "it's over - no more Bon Jovi".

Now, we have a new documentary, a frontman that went under surgery, an apology from a former guitar player, a single, an upcoming album, and the "potato-dressed man" released three new songs.

It's really much more that I could ever ask for a band that, seriously, I considered 'done' only a few months ago.

I will just wait and listen to what our favourite... frontman and songwriter and his teammates have to say on those songs.

I know there were more posters than you who thought they we 'done' because I confess to being one of them. Now my fingers are tightly cross that I can buy the album Forever after not buying 2020!

But that was exactly the point I was trying to make. What is the point in Bon Jovi making records that sound like modern pop music when the people that listen to moder pop music are mostly 30 and under and would not dream of listening to a modern pop song by an ageing 80s rock band. It makes zero sense to me....Jon says he's not chasing the hit single anymore, but the style of single he releases says otherwise.

For me Legendary is no better than Limitless or Because We Can. They are all on the absolute botom rung of Bon Jovi songs for me. I tried to like them all, I just find them absoutely souless and generic and that's not what I want from music.

For the record I enjoy GOOD modern pop music too. But Legendary isn't that for me. At the end of the day music is subjective and that's the beauty of it.

This is also my position. Jon says one thing, then repeatedly does the other.

But it comes to continuous disappointment on both sides. Disappointment from his side that there's no hits anymore, disappointment from the fanbase that needs to endure these no man's land singles of elevator music.

It's like chasing the ever narrower corridor between taste of pop audience and taste of your own accumulated fanbase and live audience. In Europe, I would say that this corridor is in fact empty set. There's no theoretical way that Jovi, for example, taps in Dua Lipa audience or whatever. And in the end, while I am a rock fan, Dua Lipa produces IMO superb pop music, while Jovi produces wannabe popular elevator singles that fail time and time again. What keeps band alive is basically loyalty of legacy fans. And to not "throw them a bone" in a form of more driven single or few harder hitting songs on albums, perhaps even calculated (like If I Was Your Mother was blatantly calculated) is not good business strategy, if we disregard taste, art, etc.

This is why Jon believes Legendary is doing well.

It is certainly the best a new Bon Jovi song has done in at least 15 years or so.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmci...h=28300dd37ff1

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Just read that. Is being a pretty good run for a Bon Jovi song. Interestingly on pop rankings.

I find the US charts so confusing as there's so many of them. It's broken down into so many different sub catagories that they don't really seem to mean anything. It's nowhere on the actual Billboard Hot 100 charts. Any article that acts like selling 1,887 downloads is a big deal is nothing more than a puff piece. It has all the signs of a paid for article to me. Has anyone in the US actually heard the song getting much airplay on pop radio?

It states that Legendary is currently 14 on the adult contemporary chart. Even Story Of Love charted higher on this chart (13) with Limitless making no. 10 and Do What You Can 11. None of those were "hits". So I don't really see how Legendary is doing better than anything in the last 15 years?