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Old 10-01-2021, 11:04 AM
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But how do you download the show from the Experience?
I dont know how to do it
I don't personally know the steps but it wouldn't take too long to figure out if there's a link it broadcasts from.
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Old 10-01-2021, 12:38 PM
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I don't personally know the steps but it wouldn't take too long to figure out if there's a link it broadcasts from.
Just gotta install an extension on the browser... "Any video download" or something like this. Some of them really download any videos in the page.
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Old 10-01-2021, 01:07 PM
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I hear you but with a radio property that isn't worldwide its something easier said than done. And if it winds up on YouTube? And if its gets traded? It's 2021, there's very little way to keep it actually exclusive.

They could use an internet radio station that is available internationally or they could work out deals with different international radio stations like the one they have with Sirius or they could set up an internet radio stream on their own website with a subscription model similar to the one Sirius has. Might be a little more complicated and require a little more effort on their part, but there are certainly options.

Of course this kinda stuff is never gonna be truly exclusive in the year of 2021, but if it ends up on YouTube or gets traded that’s fans doing it. The thing that bothers me is the lack of fairness on the official side of it all. You pay this organization to get access to this stuff and they decide to give it away for free to a specific group of people.

If they put out more additional content on the Experience, I’d be okay with it, but since the only exclusive content you’re getting there these days is a bunch of David Bergman videos, I feel even more screwed over as a customer than I did when they weren’t putting out any shows at all.


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Old 10-01-2021, 01:52 PM
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They could use an internet radio station that is available internationally or they could work out deals with different international radio stations like the one they have with Sirius or they could set up an internet radio stream on their own website with a subscription model similar to the one Sirius has. Might be a little more complicated and require a little more effort on their part, but there are certainly options.

Of course this kinda stuff is never gonna be truly exclusive in the year of 2021, but if it ends up on YouTube or gets traded thatÂ’s fans doing it. The thing that bothers me is the lack of fairness on the official side of it all. You pay this organization to get access to this stuff and they decide to give it away for free to a specific group of people.

If they put out more additional content on the Experience, IÂ’d be okay with it, but since the only exclusive content youÂ’re getting there these days is a bunch of David Bergman videos, I feel even more screwed over as a customer than I did when they werenÂ’t putting out any shows at all.


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Well that's your problem. You feel better for having something that others do not have. That is not my case. I feel better when the experience I paid for, is giving me what I want to hear and see - posting live shows and interesting content. For me, now is when JBJ Experience is starting to pay off. It's not perfect yet, but heck, we're going to get a lot of shows in nice sound quality.

All this whining about Sirius and exclusivity could put a stop to these shows. Remember when a lot of fans of the experience complained that Luv Can and Shine (Live) were on YouTube and they told Matt. What did we get after? nothing, absolutely nothing, because they knew it would happen again and again. That's why all we got are videos of Jon commenting on old live performances with footage seen a thousand times.. and DB EP.

Exclusiveness? I do not care at all that it is released on Sirius first, what matters to me is that the content is to my liking - that all those shows are included in JBJ Experience with the same sound quality that China Club has included.


Sometimes some people insist on puncture the ball so that no one else can play, and just because they don't want to wait a bit on the bench, or because it doesn't feel so VIP. That seems more unfair to me.
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Old 10-01-2021, 02:08 PM
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Well that's your problem. You feel better for having something that others do not have. That is not my case. I feel better when the experience I paid for, is giving me what I want to hear and see - posting live shows and interesting content. For me, now is when JBJ Experience is starting to pay off. It's not perfect yet, but heck, we're going to get a lot of shows in nice sound quality.

All this whining about Sirius and exclusivity could put a stop to these shows. Remember when a lot of fans of the experience complained that Luv Can and Shine (Live) were on YouTube and they told Matt. What did we get after? nothing, absolutely nothing, because they knew it would happen again and again. That's why all we got are videos of Jon commenting on old live performances with footage seen a thousand times.. and DB EP.

Exclusiveness? I do not care at all that it is released on Sirius first, what matters to me is that the content is to my liking - that all those shows are included in JBJ Experience with the same sound quality that China Club has included.


Sometimes some people insist on puncture the ball so that no one else can play, and just because they don't want to wait a bit on the bench, or because it doesn't feel so VIP. That seems more unfair to me.
No that's not the point, neither is the point having it for oneself only. It's that they announce (especially Matt and Jerry) the Experience as having THE exclusive content and have people pay for it to get access to it. Yet again, if you're in the US, you could simply listen to the radio station and have heard these shows before the rest of the world with a membership can even access them. If it was the other way around (higher quality version for the members in advance and a week or two later the mono mix on Sirius), it'd all make much more sense
And as of now, we've gotten one of the shows. Let's wait if the rest truly pops up. Don't get carried away too easily


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Old 10-01-2021, 02:46 PM
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No that's not the point, neither is the point having it for oneself only. It's that they announce (especially Matt and Jerry) the Experience as having THE exclusive content and have people pay for it to get access to it. Yet again, if you're in the US, you could simply listen to the radio station and have heard these shows before the rest of the world with a membership can even access them. If it was the other way around (higher quality version for the members in advance and a week or two later the mono mix on Sirius), it'd all make much more sense
And as of now, we've gotten one of the shows. Let's wait if the rest truly pops up. Don't get carried away too easily


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I get the point, but we've discussed this before, and if the only way these shows get to JBJ Experience, does it have to be with a premiere on Sirius first to lower possible royalty and copyright costs?

Like I said, the system is not perfect, in fact it is a bit disastrous, but at least now I am not getting an exclusive David Bergman video. We can complain, but please, let's not puncture the ball now.
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Old 10-01-2021, 03:26 PM
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Well that's your problem. You feel better for having something that others do not have. That is not my case. I feel better when the experience I paid for, is giving me what I want to hear and see - posting live shows and interesting content. For me, now is when JBJ Experience is starting to pay off. It's not perfect yet, but heck, we're going to get a lot of shows in nice sound quality.

All this whining about Sirius and exclusivity could put a stop to these shows. Remember when a lot of fans of the experience complained that Luv Can and Shine (Live) were on YouTube and they told Matt. What did we get after? nothing, absolutely nothing, because they knew it would happen again and again. That's why all we got are videos of Jon commenting on old live performances with footage seen a thousand times.. and DB EP.

Exclusiveness? I do not care at all that it is released on Sirius first, what matters to me is that the content is to my liking - that all those shows are included in JBJ Experience with the same sound quality that China Club has included.


Sometimes some people insist on puncture the ball so that no one else can play, and just because they don't want to wait a bit on the bench, or because it doesn't feel so VIP. That seems more unfair to me.
I'm not sure how you concluded that I "feel better for having something others do not have" from my post, but I don't appreciate being accused of that.

The only thing I feel is ripped off by the Bon Jovi organization, because at first they didn't really deliver on their promises at all for months and now the only content they're putting out is stuff I could get for free if I lived in another country. I don't care about exclusivity in the sense that I want to feel special or have things others don't, I just care about them holding up their end of the bargain. They promoted the Experience as being the place where you get access to content you can't get anywhere else, but now you can not only get this content somewhere else but you can even get it for free - as long as you happen to live in the US.

If you're okay with that or if the fact, that they're putting out this type of content at all now, outweighs the unfairness of it all to you, that's cool, you do you. But you can't just expect others to feel the same or accuse them of just wanting to feel special, just because they're unhappy about being ripped off by a multimillion dollar corporation.
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:26 PM
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I'm not sure how you concluded that I "feel better for having something others do not have" from my post, but I don't appreciate being accused of that.

The only thing I feel is ripped off by the Bon Jovi organization, because at first they didn't really deliver on their promises at all for months and now the only content they're putting out is stuff I could get for free if I lived in another country. I don't care about exclusivity in the sense that I want to feel special or have things others don't, I just care about them holding up their end of the bargain. They promoted the Experience as being the place where you get access to content you can't get anywhere else, but now you can not only get this content somewhere else but you can even get it for free - as long as you happen to live in the US.

If you're okay with that or if the fact, that they're putting out this type of content at all now, outweighs the unfairness of it all to you, that's cool, you do you. But you can't just expect others to feel the same or accuse them of just wanting to feel special, just because they're unhappy about being ripped off by a multimillion dollar corporation.
I am not directly accusing you, I speak in general.

Now we get the shows we were waiting for. I'm just saying.

I've listened China Club a lot of times, and even though it's a regular promo show, it's fantastic. Love For Sale is infallible, Prayer (Acoustic) is a great performance (I really miss the JBJ-SAMBORA duo, These kinds of things can no longer be reproduced with the same magic with the current band), Runaway (piano version) is hypnotic, Wanted, Bad Name and Its My Life sound vibrant ... it is wonderful to enjoy Thank You For Loving Me live, possibly it is the best version with sound quality that we have so far. Damn, even Captain Crash sounded nice.

My complaints were always in the content.. and maybe that we don't have a download section for the shows at JBJ Experience. Now we have the right content.

blazeofglory, don't think I have a problem with you, sometimes I'm too passionate and I often screw up. It's nothing personal, and I understand the frustration on this matter. But now the big shows are coming, and I don't want this to stop.
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Old 10-01-2021, 09:02 PM
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I am not directly accusing you, I speak in general.

Now we get the shows we were waiting for. I'm just saying.

I've listened China Club a lot of times, and even though it's a regular promo show, it's fantastic. Love For Sale is infallible, Prayer (Acoustic) is a great performance (I really miss the JBJ-SAMBORA duo, These kinds of things can no longer be reproduced with the same magic with the current band), Runaway (piano version) is hypnotic, Wanted, Bad Name and Its My Life sound vibrant ... it is wonderful to enjoy Thank You For Loving Me live, possibly it is the best version with sound quality that we have so far. Damn, even Captain Crash sounded nice.

My complaints were always in the content.. and maybe that we don't have a download section for the shows at JBJ Experience. Now we have the right content.

blazeofglory, don't think I have a problem with you, sometimes I'm too passionate and I often screw up. It's nothing personal, and I understand the frustration on this matter. But now the big shows are coming, and I don't want this to stop.
Your post did come across like you were accusing me directly, but I understand that you're passionate about this stuff and didn't mean it personally and maybe your wording was just a little unfortunate, so we're cool

I don't want them to stop putting out shows either. I just wish they'd gone about all of this very differently right from the start, you know?
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