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Old 11-11-2021, 06:51 PM
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They mark up their products so much, it's difficult to quantify.

A 2 dollar coffee cup sells for 30 because Jon's face is on it.

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Old 11-11-2021, 07:10 PM
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Yup. It's not $600 in cost-to-produce, it's $600 retail value (or $150 per box). With what they charge, I don't think it's quite there but it's awfully close. RD isn't wrong, these things are cheap to make and marked up to all hell.

Marketing it as Jon's favourite things though? That's some weird, shady sales tactics.
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$150 for that tat, Wow.
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Some woman is on YouTube saying the boxes weren’t a rip off and videos of jon looking at photos is fun and what were people expecting….

Quite a bit more when jon announced he had the keys to the vault and then released stuff of which 90% was already on YouTube.

There’s no way the boxes total $600…wouldn’t make good business sense for a start to sell $600 boxes for $199.
There’s not 1 thing from the box you look at and think…that’s decent. It’s all cheap junk.


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There’s no way the boxes total $600…wouldn’t make good business sense for a start to sell $600 boxes for $199.

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It makes sense if the items were either a) already created and sitting around the warehouse or b) made very cheaply. Again, it's $600 in retail value, so it's based on what people would pay. The store is littered with low cost (to make) items jacked up in value. A scarf with a logo, a mug with a picture, a cheap shirt, these aren't bank busters.
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Maybe the items were meant to be the bonus shit you'd have gotten for the super duper front row packages last tour... Since the tour was indefinitely postponed, they had to make some money out of it.

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It makes sense if the items were either a) already created and sitting around the warehouse or b) made very cheaply. Again, it's $600 in retail value, so it's based on what people would pay. The store is littered with low cost (to make) items jacked up in value. A scarf with a logo, a mug with a picture, a cheap shirt, these aren't bank busters.
I’m sorry I’m just not seeing where you are getting the retail value of these items from. Even on the Bon Jovi store the items / similar items are no where near their supposed box value.
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I’m sorry I’m just not seeing where you are getting the retail value of these items from. Even on the Bon Jovi store the items / similar items are no where near their supposed box value.
I'd have to see and break down each thing but for the most part each box looks like it had six or seven items. At $150/value per box each item would have to retail for $20 to $25, and with their prices that's pretty close to what they charge for dumb stuff like key fobs and apparel. Considering that side of the fanbase is paying $200 for all 4 boxes, each box is $50 of stuff plus the digital stuff.

Again, I'm not defending the box, I think it's total cheap crap but if you like that stuff and buy a lot of merch, god bless ya, the organization makes a lot of money with very little cost. They hoodwinked a lot of people with this one.
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Some woman is on YouTube saying the boxes weren’t a rip off and videos of jon looking at photos is fun and what were people expecting….

Quite a bit more when jon announced he had the keys to the vault and then released stuff of which 90% was already on YouTube.

There’s no way the boxes total $600…wouldn’t make good business sense for a start to sell $600 boxes for $199.
There’s not 1 thing from the box you look at and think…that’s decent. It’s all cheap junk.


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"Runaway Tours: Runaways!!! Keep an eye out in the next day for an email from us with a special offer for you. Make sure to check out what is coming in the world of Jon Bon Jovi. The JBJ experience is going to have access like never before. Jon is digging deep into the vaults and will share things that haven't been seen or heard of by fans in the past."


It was the big scam (for me).


Also, I don't know if you've seen all of the videos, but for the most part they are awkward, because all of Jon's body language is telling you that he doesn't want to do that. I remember that video of Jon walking around his house, at the end of the video, you can see him saying goodbye at the bar cabinet, and he thinks the camera has cut, his friendly face changes to an angry face for an instant, until he realizes that the cameraman was telling him to say goodbye.

I'm just saying, if Jon hates making those videos, he better not make them, no one is interested in forced video of Jon. Instead, you can launch archive videos of studio recordings, soundcheks, or live performances.

We pay $ 80 a year for "exclusive" content, that's an average of $ 6-7 a month. Some months he hasn't even uploaded material, and most of the time it was just videos of David Berman promoting his work or YouTube video reactions with Jon. Something very shabby.

I can only highlight the following:

Video with Luv Can and Shine Live.
Video of Christmas songs.
3 Videos live performance from California: San Jose 2008 (Complicated, Last Man Standing, I Love This Town) and Los Angeles 2010 (WWWB, Superman Tonight, We Got It Going On) B-Stage (Something For The Pain Acoustic, Saturday Night Acoustic)
Video of one live performance of Bed Of Roses from 1993.
China Club 2000 and Wembley Arena 1988, ONLY AUDIO stream.


Is this worth 80 dollars? not for me, with the exception of China Club 2000 and Wembley 88, all those videos could have easily ended up on the band's YouTube channel, and even then, many would not have cared... because are always the same songs.

He promised never-heard-before tracks, and we didn't get any tracks.

Sadly, the only way to get anything decent would be on a commercial release from the record label. Ironically only they (the label) could be the heroes for us.
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