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jovifan93 · #71 11-19-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

Hahaha, to start the album These Days screams grunge for miles. Second, what's wrong with grunge?

you should know that Hey God is a grunge song, the whole damn album has that grunge vibe, Someday Ill Be Saturday Night has it too. What's your problem with grunge? even Jon was look grunge in plaid shirts, wool sweaters and all that.

These Days is the most special album of their discography precisely because Jon and the band experimented with the grunge of that time.

I will never understand those who love These Days but hate grunge music, sorry it's so stupid.

Someday I'll Be Saturday Night? You must mean a different song...

Alphavictim · #72 11-19-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Correct research, hahaha dude there are 106 comments and 2 of them (maybe 2 and a half) asked for a Christmas album. 1.87% of the comments but please go on and tell us about our uninformed research.

Many people are saying it. Big demand!

rolo_tomachi · #73 11-19-2020, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93

Someday I'll Be Saturday Night? You must mean a different song...

why? Why is it a bit more optimistic? Even Jon took on Soul Asylum's Runaway Train as an influence.

The Saturday Night video screams Grunge and Alternative Rock from 1993.

Bon Jovi - Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (Intl....

Another fact. Rocking in The Free World by Neill Young spoke to a whole generation of young people, Pearl Jam made this song even more popular in their shows since 1992.... in these point, was considered a grunge anthem. Later, Bon Jovi tourned during 1995 with that song.

I think These Days did not take off in the United States because after Cobain's death, grunge was dying and people preferred more optimistic and cheerful music, however Bon Jovi made an album with a grunge aroma. I appreciate it even though he failed in the United States. That record is pure gold.

JoviForever · #74 11-19-2020, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

Hahaha, to start the album These Days screams grunge for miles. Second, what's wrong with grunge?

you should know that Hey God is a grunge song, the whole damn album has that grunge vibe, Someday Ill Be Saturday Night has it too. What's your problem with grunge? even Jon was look grunge in plaid shirts, wool sweaters and all that.

These Days is the most special album of their discography precisely because Jon and the band experimented with the grunge of that time.

I will never understand those who love These Days but hate grunge music, sorry it's so stupid.

I have never ever thought These Days was a grunge album apart from ‘Prostitute’ which was a b side on a single. Someday is a pop song if anything.😳

James_86 · #75 11-19-2020, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Agree with Seb and BJFan99.

Before people say well you would mr negative, I really feel JBJ could’ve made a statement with these boxes by announcing Mona Lisa or Cadillac Man in box1 - that would’ve been an amazing start but at the moment the first box feels thrown together.
Be honest do you want 3 Xmas songs and they aren’t even Bon Jovi songs the are recorded with another band.
Photos? Not interested. I’ve seen more Jovi photos in my 30 years as a fan than I can remember. There wouldn’t be a photo I’d go wow at.
Live recordings - again, not interested. The only live recording I would want is MK Bowl 93 or Hammersmith 90 but I doubt these will be in the boxes.

I want to be gutted at refusing to pay the money for these boxes but so far I’m glad I didn’t.

2020 has bombed beyond Jon’s comprehension and these just reeks of desperation to keep the remaining fans he has. He knows there’s a few fans (check twitter for the real freaky fans) who will literally buy anything no matter how expensive.

Jon has paid the price for following trends. Ac/Dc....never chased trends and never changed the recipe but they are heading for a worldwide No1 album this week. No matter the music fashion Ac/Dc have always released rock n roll albums. Glam, grunge, industrial, nu metal, punk - you name it they have seen them all off and stuck to what they know and have remained massive with a huge fanbase. They will sell more in Uk than Jovi’s 2020 has worldwide.

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Agree with all of this.

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JoviForever · #76 11-19-2020, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

These Days was a complete flop in the US especially during those times when albums were still selling in the tens of millions. Even to date it is not even at 1 million copies sold here.

When it comes to other parts of the world, I question some of those numbers and how Wikipedia reports them. A half a million is Platinum in Europe versus 1 million in the US plus other parts count single sales as albums too. Its comparing apples to oranges but let's just say that the album wasn't the smash out of the gate that the band was used to with prior albums... It eventually creeped it's way to success in certain countries but it definitely didn't meet instantant expectations.

They broke big over in Europe during that period and really became global so kudos to Jon for not going grunge to appeal to the US and exploring other markets outside.

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These Days was the bands most successful era in the UK but mostly on the back of the success of Always and the Cross Roads album. They played Wembley 3 nights in a row on the week it was released. They were never as popular here before or since!

rolo_tomachi · #77 11-19-2020, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever

I have never ever thought These Days was a grunge album apart from ‘Prostitute’ which was a b side on a single. Someday is a pop song if anything.��

Someday was the bridge to These Days.

But you're missing my point, why people hate grunge so much but love These Days so much?. They don't realize that this album was influenced from there. Perhaps the only thing that makes it different is that it is still a romantic album.

Alphavictim · #78 11-19-2020, 06:44 PM

As My Guitar... is as 90s as it gets. How people can deny this is beyond me.

Rdkopper · #79 11-19-2020, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Correct research, hahaha dude there are 106 comments and 2 of them (maybe 2 and a half) asked for a Christmas album. 1.87% of the comments but please go on and tell us about our uninformed research.

This is what I refer to as a lazy and meaningless statistic. If 2 people said yes and the other 104 said no, then your 1.87 would have some meaning but comments aren't a poll to see who what's an album and who doesn't so that's just ridiculous... Most comments are geared towards the video itself... I hope you don't work in finance or statistics.

As a fan for 35 years, I've seen a Christmas Album requests in multiple places. On Facebook, Videos, Interviews, Etc and some even think there is one because there so many songs.

Remember, Jon's core fanbase are the Backstage members. Not the lurkers on here who ask for links every 3 years.

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Captain_jovi · #80 11-19-2020, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

This is what I refer to as a lazy and meaningless statistic. If 2 people said yes and the other 104 said no, then your 1.87 would have some meaning but comments aren't a poll to see who what's an album and who doesn't so that's just ridiculous... Most comments are geared towards the video itself... I hope you don't work in finance or statistics.

As a fan for 35 years, I've seen a Christmas Album requests in multiple places. On Facebook, Videos, Interviews, Etc and some even think there is one because there so many songs.

Remember, Jon's core fanbase are the Backstage members. Not the lurkers on here who ask for links every 3 years.

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I think what people are talking about is, when YOU use something make a point it proves it, when someone uses it against you, it's now meaningless. If you're going to make a point, make it but know it goes both ways. It's very hard to debate with you because you're very good at waving your arms around without the crucial information you boast having and being better than everyone else for understanding. Thus far you haven't really....proved much of anything.

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