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Old 11-19-2020, 08:30 PM
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I think what people are talking about is, when YOU use something make a point it proves it, when someone uses it against you, it's now meaningless. If you're going to make a point, make it but know it goes both ways. It's very hard to debate with you because you're very good at waving your arms around without the crucial information you boast having and being better than everyone else for understanding. Thus far you haven't really....proved much of anything.
You're providing false and incorrect data which is fake news. Here is a quick lesson...

In order to stat this correctly, you would need to somehow calculate all the possible outcome of comments any one individual could make towards a video and compare that number to the amount of times someone asked for a Christmas Album to get a true stat.

Now we are both smart enough to know that that is nearly impossible and the amount of comments are probably close to infinite however in THEORY, that is how you would do that.

And now you should be smart enough to know that your 1.87 is null and void.

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Old 11-19-2020, 08:30 PM
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i think we must all give the benefit of doubt ..
the whole jbj experience just started, we dont know if it will be worth it.
imo the first taste is really promising.
time will tell if they open the archives, if jon wants to protect the legacy must put time and money into this and share material audio and video that compliments the band..

ps. really excited about the film as well, i love live settings, i hope it sounds and looks great, obviously there will be some doctoring, np
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Old 11-19-2020, 09:31 PM
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i think we must all give the benefit of doubt ..
the whole jbj experience just started, we dont know if it will be worth it.
imo the first taste is really promising.
time will tell if they open the archives, if jon wants to protect the legacy must put time and money into this and share material audio and video that compliments the band..

ps. really excited about the film as well, i love live settings, i hope it sounds and looks great, obviously there will be some doctoring, np
I agree. This is the Jon Bon Jovi Experience so I don't expect much from the band. Now, within this limitation, there are a lot of possibilities, Sex Sells songs for example.

What bothers me the most is that there is no clear information on what you are getting if you subscribe. The content may be 4 tracks a month, or it may be only 1. We are not sure that we will see those shows in full, maybe is only small fragments of several decades, or some live performance of a song from a show.

I just look back at what American XS Platinum was, something that seemed very exciting, and in 3 months they stopped updating tracks and uploading videos. So you have to be cautious. It may be great, or it may be yet another disappointment.
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Old 11-19-2020, 10:46 PM
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You're providing false and incorrect data which is fake news. Here is a quick lesson...

In order to stat this correctly, you would need to somehow calculate all the possible outcome of comments any one individual could make towards a video and compare that number to the amount of times someone asked for a Christmas Album to get a true stat.

Now we are both smart enough to know that that is nearly impossible and the amount of comments are probably close to infinite however in THEORY, that is how you would do that.

And now you should be smart enough to know that your 1.87 is null and void.

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HAHAHA I got as far as "Fake news" and stopped. Never mind man, never mind.
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Old 11-19-2020, 10:53 PM
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HAHAHA I got as far as "Fake news" and stopped. Never mind man, never mind.
You obviously didn't because you wouldn't feel the need to state that if you did.

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Old 11-19-2020, 11:50 PM
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There is nothing of grunge sound on These Days apart from Prostitute.
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Here you go. First video I pulled up, second comment down.

"I wish Bon Jovi would put out a Christmas Album"

Thinny, just leave the facts to me. You are clearly unreliable... You literally posted all this nonsense licensing jargon about why they cant release archived material. WRONG!

https://youtu.be/iiz_b25-zmk

I was going to get into the Xmas thing, but everyone else has shot you down enough, so I'll leave it be.

Also, what I said that he would legally have to pay for the use of songs he didn't solely write, which is true. And that it also depends on what his contract with the label was as far a archive recordings go, which is also true. So please check your own facts before spouting off more rubbish...

Also you're starting to sound so much like your hero it's quite scary...
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:31 AM
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When it comes to other parts of the world, I question some of those numbers and how Wikipedia reports them. A half a million is Platinum in Europe versus 1 million in the US plus other parts count single sales as albums too. Its comparing apples to oranges but let's just say that the album wasn't the smash out of the gate that the band was used to with prior albums... It eventually creeped it's way to success in certain countries but it definitely didn't meet instantant expectations.
It sold a million copies in it's first 4 weeks in the UK alone, where it was number one for a while month. So it didn't creep at all. The rest of Europe was similar instantly at No. 1., as was the case with Australia and Japan, where it outsold Keep The Faith.

Again, please check your facts before posting rubbish.

There's more to the world that the USA.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:33 AM
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I was going to get into the Xmas thing, but everyone else has shot you down enough, so I'll leave it be.



Also, what I said that he would legally have to pay for the use of songs he didn't solely write, which is true. And that it also depends on what his contract with the label was as far a archive recordings go, which is also true. So please check your own facts before spouting off more rubbish...



Also you're starting to sound so much like your hero it's quite scary...
No. Please get into the Christmas thing because nobody shot anything down. All I learned today is that Captain Jovi needs to take a Probability and Statistics Class.

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Old 11-20-2020, 12:37 AM
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Hahaha, to start the album These Days screams grunge for miles. Second, what's wrong with grunge?

you should know that Hey God is a grunge song, the whole damn album has that grunge vibe, Someday Ill Be Saturday Night has it too. What's your problem with grunge? even Jon was look grunge in plaid shirts, wool sweaters and all that.

These Days is the most special album of their discography precisely because Jon and the band experimented with the grunge of that time.

I will never understand those who love These Days but hate grunge music, sorry it's so stupid.
Sorry Rolo but These Days is not a grunge album. The band did have a grungy image at the time, but musically there is very little in common with grunge at all. I'm not Anti-grunge at all, I love a lot of bands out of that scene, but I don't hear it in These Days very much. Yes, it's a darker, moodier record, and a couple of the heavier guitar moments may have been influenced by the scene, but it's far, far from a grunge album.

I mean, This Ain't A Love Song and Hearts Breaking Even have RnB influences. Stuff like Something For The Pain and If That's What It Takes is a classic Bon Jovi style. Almost half of the album is ballads. If that's grunge to you, then I really don't think you can know what grunge is.
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