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Old 01-24-2018, 02:29 PM
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Being "one of the hardest working men in the business" might sound like a cool thing, but it also wears the body down.

Ace Frehley also has more of his voice left than Paul Stanley.
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:45 PM
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I agree, but it seems odd to me that other performers have been doing just as long (and harder) and can still move. Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger. Heck, Axl Rose who isn't in nearly as good a shape as Jon runs about 10 miles each show.
Different genetics. Axl hasn’t even done much for most of the last few decades. What has to he done to wear himself out?

Saying I don’t mind that he doesn’t move around as much is not an “excuse.” It’s a dose of reality infused common sense. Some of you seem to completely lack this.
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:23 PM
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Different genetics. Axl hasn’t even done much for most of the last few decades. What has to he done to wear himself out?

Um, Axl has been touring constantly for the last god knows how many years. The Original line up just got back together, but Guns N Roses still carried on with a different line up after Slash etc left, constantly touring all over the word....
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:48 PM
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It is not about physical efforts. It's a question of aesthetics. Imagine THINFS with an acoustic guitar, imagine God Bless or Born Again Tomorrow or Knockout with acoustic guitar. It just is not attractive in this kind of songs.
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:52 PM
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THINFS does have an acoustic guitar. In fact it's the opposite, he doesn't play it on stage and doesn't really play guitar on the new songs live so I'm not sure what people are complaining about here.

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Old 01-24-2018, 04:00 PM
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I'm not complaining by the way, I don't mind Jon playing his acoustic at all, I never found it hindered him on stage, I just though the comment about him overdosing was silly....

I do wish BJ would rock more, but songs like Saturday Night still used to rock live, even with Jon on the acoustic...
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I'm not complaining by the way, I don't mind Jon playing his acoustic at all, I never found it hindered him on stage, I just though the comment about him overdosing was silly....

I do wish BJ would rock more, but songs like Saturday Night still used to rock live, even with Jon on the acoustic...
Agreed, yeah. It's the intensity of the song that's dropped and the energy on stage.

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Old 01-24-2018, 04:23 PM
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Ok,understood,you must be 5 years old.
Grow up,an then,you come back to the board.
Más bien 'misunderstood'. Me parece bien que tengas ganas de pelea, pero a mí no me incluyas por favor, vengo a dar mi opinión y a leer las de los demás. No le he faltado al respeto a nadie, así que te pido por favor que no me insultes y dejes tus niñateces para otra ocasión 😉.
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Its a shame but Bon Jovi are sh1t now in terms of new music.
Its all dull dull dull.
With the exception of about 10 songs Id be happy if theyd split after Bounce. Thats the last acceptable album for me and even then I skip 3 or 4. A split after These Days wouldve probably been better come to think of it.

The live shows Im struggling with. I dont want to see the stage with Shanks and the dude playing bonjos. Thats not Jovi.

Im happy being stuck in a 1983-95 Jovi time warp.
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Old 01-24-2018, 04:34 PM
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I do not think it's about that. Jon always tried to put the sound of each album with the trend of the moment. I think if Jon someday makes a rock album with great riffs it will be because he has become the trend, but now it is not the case, so we all have to deal with this.

So complaining about the fans, it's a bit useless. Only two things would change the course, a great failure on sales, or a new musical trend.
I agree with most of what you're saying: 80s was hair metal, early 90s Bob Rock production, TD era was very ballady, then since Crush (except Creedy Bounce and country Lost Highway), it's been the pop rock vibe (U2, Coldplay, Killers even a bit of Pinky stuff).

However why did he do 'Stand up guy', talk about doing a solo record then suddenly ditch the idea? IMO, it's because the fans gave him terrible feedback. Stand up guy' wasn't trendy, commercial music; I'm convinced it was Jon trying to do something of his own, something he CAN do. Don't tell me his voice didn't sound great...

Jon is not going to appeal to new fans, but I'm just saying that because the majority like his current musical direction, that's what we'll get. Let's say us rockers are 10%, that leaves 90% pop rockers, that's why we get 1.5 rock songs on a record and 12 pop (0 acoustic ones obviously) 😓
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