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Old 02-11-2018, 12:25 AM
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Not EVERY one, no. Of course not. Jon said that TDITT was about someone at the label. And he said that AHTK was about Soul Kitchen volunteers.




I guess you'd have to ask Jon that question because he's the one who said he was - as far back as NJ. Unless you think there's some other guy he was singing to when he said: "I was made...to be your man, to be your shoulder to cry on; be my baby, born to be your best friend, darlin'; to be your Superman, to be your shoulder to cry on, to be your brother... your buddy..."

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Jackie, I was totally being sarcastic when I said every songs been about Richie...

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Old 02-11-2018, 12:27 AM
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Jackie, I was totally being sarcastic when I said every songs been about Richie...

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I know that, RDK. I was totally being sarcastic in response to your sarcasm. I'll shoot lower next time.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:30 AM
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A lot of bands that joined over time have had a second chance, like Guns N Roses. You never know.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:33 AM
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Fan video of When We Were Us:

It's been surely posted before, but that's not the point. The scenes were taken from Access All Areas and I had watched that one probably 100 times in the last decade. It's the first time that I've noticed that Jon pulls down his pants in the background and you see his ass at 1:35...
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Old 02-11-2018, 01:22 AM
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Fan video of When We Were Us:
Bon Jovi - When We Were Us - YouTube

It's been surely posted before, but that's not the point. The scenes were taken from Access All Areas and I had watched that one probably 100 times in the last decade. It's the first time that I've noticed that Jon pulls down his pants in the background and you see his ass at 1:35...
Now THAT'S interesting!!

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Old 02-11-2018, 11:02 AM
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Richie's return would just be a fan thing...
In some ways. But it would also be a chance for a massive PR stunt. Reunion tour etc, it would sell them a lot more tickets.

I don[t know about elsewhere, but here in the UK, if you read social media pages such as Classic Rock Magazine and Planet Rock Radio, whenever anything is posted about Bon Jovi, an overwhelming amount of comments are "it's not Bon Jovi without Richie". Losing Richie has lost the band a lot of ticket sales over here from the Rock audience, which is still their main audience here. There is still a massive amount of Rock fans that go to gigs! I'm not talking about the people that brought Cross Road in 1994 because they liked Always, kinda knew Livin' On A Prayer and though Jon was cute. Those fans lost interest a long time ago...
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:45 AM
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In some ways. But it would also be a chance for a massive PR stunt. Reunion tour etc, it would sell them a lot more tickets.

I don[t know about elsewhere, but here in the UK, if you read social media pages such as Classic Rock Magazine and Planet Rock Radio, whenever anything is posted about Bon Jovi, an overwhelming amount of comments are "it's not Bon Jovi without Richie". Losing Richie has lost the band a lot of ticket sales over here from the Rock audience, which is still their main audience here. There is still a massive amount of Rock fans that go to gigs! I'm not talking about the people that brought Cross Road in 1994 because they liked Always, kinda knew Livin' On A Prayer and though Jon was cute. Those fans lost interest a long time ago...
Two things:
1) While you're not wrong, I think the effect Richie has on commercial success (stream counts, album and ticket sales) is not as big as we once thought and 2013 proved that. I did not expect at the time the second half of that tour to still be that successful. And now I'd happily see them again even without Richie, if Jon could still sing. But he can't and that's the main variable, not absence of Richie and I don't think I'm in the minority here. Sure we'd all be happy to have him back, but does it make a difference of going vs. not going? For most, I think the answer is no.
2) Richie hasn't been out of the band that long for a reunion tour to be that massive PR thing. I think it would need to be at least 10 years for it to matter on a general public level.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:23 PM
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How is it blatant? What lines exactly are people perceiving to be about Richie?

"You can only go so far now
Till your on your way back home"
Just imagine how crazy people would go if they released Who Says now, cos clearly Jon wrote that about Richie even before he left through his crystal ball...
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Axl can still sing, and that took what 20 years or so? They'd be in their 70s...
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:31 PM
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Two things:
1) While you're not wrong, I think the effect Richie has on commercial success (stream counts, album and ticket sales) is not as big as we once thought and 2013 proved that. I did not expect at the time the second half of that tour to still be that successful. And now I'd happily see them again even without Richie, if Jon could still sing. But he can't and that's the main variable, not absence of Richie and I don't think I'm in the minority here. Sure we'd all be happy to have him back, but does it make a difference of going vs. not going? For most, I think the answer is no.
2) Richie hasn't been out of the band that long for a reunion tour to be that massive PR thing. I think it would need to be at least 10 years for it to matter on a general public level.
The people posting here are hard core fans, we all bought This House Is Not For Sale. And most would still go and see the band live, I was talking about the general Rock fans who like Bon Jovi and would go and see them live....again, I'm only talking about the UK, I wouldn't have a clue about anywhere else and you're clearly talking about the US, as the UK hasn't even had a first leg on the tour, never mind a second....Richie's absence has definitely hurt them over here, for all the points mentioned in my last post. I know people that saw BJ just after Richie left and said it was enjoyable but not the same and they wouldn't go again.

5 years is long enough when you are the age that the band are. Time is running out. The RNR hall of fame will create a a buzz about Richie being back with them if they perform, so absolutely there would be a huge interest.

Having said that I hope it doesn't happen. I want to see how RSO plays out personally. the Bon Jovi we knew and loved is no more, even with Richie back it wouldn't be the same now.
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