New Studio Album - Forever

Yah it all kind of fizzled out unfortunately.

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Or maybe fortunately because Jon's voice is too far gone for even Richie to actually help him vocally. If people just want to see Jon and Richie together again that's up to them, but the sound will still be bad sadly. Unless there is some miracle out there for Jon's voice.

Meh, depends on WHY you want it. I don't want it because I think it will be good, I want it to say a proper goodbye. I'm fully accepting it won't sound good either way.

Aloha !

How many goodbye's do you need?

This band did its farewell tour in 2011. It's just that no one knew it at the time and yet most people on here knew it would be the band's last great run.

Richie left. Jon's voice is gone. Any chance of hearing something remotely rare is gone. Any chance at hearing a spectacular preformance is gone.

What are you saying goodbye to now?

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You're projecting how you want to say goodbye onto others though. The post 2011 for sure tainted my view on the band. I don't want this to how I see them go out.

"This band did its farewell tour in 2011. It's just that no one knew it at the time and yet most people on here knew it would be the band's last great run."

This is a little much I think. It was really good tour but at no point did I think "well that's it for them, Richie will be gone in two years and Jon will get worse". At that point Jon was leaps and bounds better than what he was on previous tours, the overseas setlists were great. Hell Toronto was still getting one rarity at every show. I had no reason to think things would go the way they did.

It's ridiculously cheesy but I want to be at peace with it. Get the band back in one place, say thank you and that's it. I don't think either Jon or Richie can handle a full tour so it's all a moot point.

i agree, at this point i dont know how much gas they have left, but i truly would like to see them play again as a band again and finish on a high

Well said. You will always have people who are closed-minded to the concept that other people may do things differently than them. Everyone has their own path with this band and no two fans are the same because the relationship with the music is different for everybody.

I will not go back unless a miracle happens with the performances. But it is obvious that many people will and have their reasons for that. I am happy that fans can still find something in the experience.

If that's what you want, I hope you get it. I said goodbye when I first tried to listen to 2020 and couldn't stand it. Then came those awful live performances in 2022. I listen to their old music now and it just makes me so sad that Jon's lovely voice is just gone. I don't think I appreciated it enough at the time. It goes back to the old saying about never appreciating what you have until it's gone I guess.

There is a bunch of studio technology out there today to make Jon sound like he was 25 again, if he was willing to use it. Considering the fact that technology has always been used with studio recordings, I really don't have a problem with it if the writing and musical depth was there.

I think Jon tries to create a balance between the two in order to keep it real but also to perform the songs live.

He knows his fans know his vocal limitations so if he cranks out an album sounding like he's 25, it could have significant consequences.

At this point I'd like to see him go for it because there are no more live performances. A simple song like Limitless is just as painful to listen to as Always.

I also feel bad for the band. I feel like they've all been sheltered enough. Phil now has a side project, Richie wants back in, Tico and Dave aren't getting any younger. If there is a time for these guys to get out there and slay it, it's now. All the ingredients are there to get back to work but if your lead-singer can't show up, you got nothing which is a darn shame.

Jon's playing Tennis in Florida like Jerry Seinfeld's Dad.