Thank You, Goodnight: The Bon Jovi Story, coming to Hulu

I myself am very very critical of Shanks and wish him gone 15 years ago already, but I think Richie is using him a bit as scapegoat. Richie is equally to be blamed as Jon for uninspired, pop rock stuff.

What he didn't like is him losing the 2nd in hierarchy spot, the songwriting partner, the co-producer, the 2nd half of the magic spot, true. And this combined with Jon's behaviour in those years and his own personal problems and demons surely played a role.

But I don't think that today Shanks presents to Richie a condition for returning or not returning. It is what it is, everybody will rationalize as they go. Also, Shanks alone cannot be enough reason for Richie to abandon ship.

It can be one of valid reasons, but I presume something more fundamental pushed him over the edge, and its not pop in the music or ambitious and/or toxic producer. It's him with his own challenges and contraints in those years.

Just binged the whole thing. Decent documentary with some nice moments. No more, no less.

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I already know the bands history and have no interest in jon's childhood. I've heard the dj story about runaway ad nauseam, as well as the whole debacle with the Slippery cover. I have no interest in this shanks vs richie nonsense, and I have no interest in any footage as far as jon's voice goes. I'm not sure when I'll get around to watching this if at all.

How much of the doc is spent on the Keep The Faith album? Any studio footage? I'm guessing not much.

Does richie go into anything interesting other than his feud with shanks?

Is there something else in the doucmentary worth watching?

It's a good watch, not much is gone into the time spent recording specific albums and songs.

"I already know the bands history and have no interest in jon's childhood. I've heard the dj story about runaway ad nauseam, as well as the whole debacle with the Slippery cover. I have no interest in this shanks vs richie nonsense, and I have no interest in any footage as far as jon's voice goes."

At any given time, the movie touches upon one of those things so it's probably just not for you.

Considering its the best part of 5 hours, it is surprisingly light on the musical process and outright disrespectful to the band's most creatively interesting period. It is a decent watch and entertaining, but about as vanilla as you can get. Especially because Jon claims he had no creative control. I feel with the reigns Chopra was given, he could have created something more substantial. At the same time this isn't a documentary put on a boxset for fans, it is a mainstream product.

I have watched Access many times. Like Some Kind of Monster (for different reasons), it is a true snapshot of a band in a moment. It is alive and because of that, you live it too. Thank You, Goodnight is more like a visual Wikipedia page.

yea this pretty much sums up what I was thinking without even watching it. It makes sense though about appealing to the masses but at 5 hours could have at least went into some detail about the making of albums with corresponding studio footage. I could be the only one on the planet interested in an in depth making of keep the faith doc. maybe that backstage thing will have some good stuff.

The documentary is ok. The best parts were Doc McGhee and Desmond saying his views on the band. Also intriguing that Richie came back a year later to say two lines. "They know why I left". Probably he had a contract signed that made him go back a year later and record something.

The bits about Richie vs Shanks made me feel even more that it was 100% Jon's fault. He blamed himself for years for Richie leaving? Well, he should, because he was to blame. Richie had his issues, but on the band camp, Jon was making it even more difficult.

Overall, I think the documentary is very lacking in research. They never talked about the 2nd solo albums. Even the main narrative would be richer if they talked about Richie's 3rd solo tour and the overlapping with WAN recording sessions. Hell, if the focus was Jon's voice, why they didn't mention Wanted being dropped from the setlist or the playback he used in that tour? I expected more. I feel like I fell for Bon Jovi's PR once again.


Also, just to note, I hate Matt even more after the doc.

I brought this up in another thread but it's clear....something went down in between those recording sessions. He seemed extra ticked off.

Well I liked it a lot. Those guys wrote soundtrack of my life and doc brought back so many memories why I still loves this band and always will.

I haven't watched it yet. What does it say about the 90s?

But what did you guys expect tbh? It's the same old CEO. I love the artist but it's pointless to always expect more from him.

Btw is there a source about topics being filtered/vetoed on his interviews? Or having to be informed beforehand? I've read this many times but where does it come from? Honest question.