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jovifan85 · #**451** 04-26-2024, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC

The documentary is ok. The best parts were Doc McGhee and Desmond saying his views on the band. Also intriguing that Richie came back a year later to say two lines. "They know why I left". Probably he had a contract signed that made him go back a year later and record something.

The bits about Richie vs Shanks made me feel even more that it was 100% Jon's fault. He blamed himself for years for Richie leaving? Well, he should, because he was to blame. Richie had his issues, but on the band camp, Jon was making it even more difficult.

Overall, I think the documentary is very lacking in research. They never talked about the 2nd solo albums. Even the main narrative would be richer if they talked about Richie's 3rd solo tour and the overlapping with WAN recording sessions. Hell, if the focus was Jon's voice, why they didn't mention Wanted being dropped from the setlist or the playback he used in that tour? I expected more. I feel like I fell for Bon Jovi's PR once again.

Also, just to note, I hate Matt even more after the doc.

Richie Sambora and JBJ are both to blame for Richie's depature in 2013.

JBJ's always used some form of playback even from the 90's, on Livin' on a Prayer.

Yes, JBJ should have been more honest about his voice to fans ( especially 2012 onwards Touring) and John Shanks involvement more than a producer, but Richie Sambora also too to the fans,that he didn't like the direction the band was going in, but he did co-write WAN as well.....

Everyone's has a blame to share.

Sometimes fans hatred for JBJ can colour objectivity that anything Bon Jovi produces since WAN will be no good since Richie Sambora isn't there. Yes, it's better with Richie, but JBJ can write good songs, he's just older and wiser, in what he chooses to sing about. The past isn't coming back.

Rdkopper · #**452** 04-26-2024, 10:46 PM

Us fans are way too close to it to be shocked by anything. It's still cool to see all the footage, past and present.

I watch it in two ways. Once for myself and again as if I was a new fan (or a random viewer). Is it interesting for a new fan or is it just boring?

Overall, I think it's well done. I was kinda hoping for some AI visual technology to clean up some of the old footage. There was definitely stuff pulled from YouTube.

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rolo_tomachi · #**453** 04-26-2024, 10:48 PM

So it's only 4 episodes, right?

I guess some episodes last more than 1 hour.

Rdkopper · #**454** 04-26-2024, 10:49 PM

I'm still Pro Jon but I definitely get Richie so much more now... I really feel Jon's sadness comes from Richie's departure and not him losing his voice.

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blazeofglory · #**455** 04-26-2024, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93

Don't know if it's just me but Jon seems much 'softer' these days.

Yeah, that really stuck out to me as well. I thought it was quite refreshing to see, especially in comparison to how he was in the WWWB doc.

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jovifan85 · #**456** 04-26-2024, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

I'm still Pro Jon but I definitely get Richie so much more now... I really feel Jon's sadness comes from Richie's departure and not him losing his voice.

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I feel he's still isn't over it.....And Richie Sambora (according to the Doc) doesn't want to discuss it......Would help everyone to talk.

Never say never for Richie Sambora making a appearance if they ever tour again or make another Album(s)

I do think Richie Sambora respects JBJ, like JBJ does Richie Sambora despite everything what's happened.

semigoodlooking · #**457** 04-26-2024, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85

I feel he's still isn't over it.....And Richie Sambora (according to the Doc) doesn't want to discuss it......Would help everyone to talk.

Never say never for Richie Sambora making a appearance if they ever tour again or make another Album(s)

I do think Richie Sambora respects JBJ, like JBJ does Richie Sambora despite everything what's happened.

I am convinced Richie will be back with Jon in some capacity again in the future. Whether that is a record, a tour, or both.

Thierry · #**458** 04-26-2024, 11:30 PM

Man Shanks is a prick. Seemed to be very keen on replacing Richie in the band. He doesn't have chops so they hired X. To me Shanks in this documentary is to blame for lots of the confusion.

That said, the documentary was an excellent piece of Jovi history.

Captain_jovi · #**459** 04-26-2024, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry

Man Shanks is a prick. Seemed to be very keen on replacing Richie in the band. He doesn't have chops so they hired X. To me Shanks in this documentary is to blame for lots of the confusion.

Ehhh this is a reach. I'd say Shanks's playing style is far closer to Richies than Phils. Shanks's solo on Fingerprints is aping the same blues guitarists Richie was influenced by, the point where I wondered if there was a scratch solo he recorded over.

Especially given how many songs in the setlist are post 2000 and how many of them Shanks played on the actual recordings.

Thierry · #**460** 04-26-2024, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvi

Episode 3 is brilliant.

Does absolutely nothing for the hate of John Shanks though. It’s just gonna make the fans dislike him even more. I know I sure do.

The guy is a ****ing douche.

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