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Old 08-16-2017, 03:42 PM
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I think you're overreacting and reaching a little... what they do on their time off and how they run their machine doesn't really matter to me... They've always done side projects and ran the Bon Jovi brand like a machine... A more mature Jon just runs it more like a mature business... My only concern is quality of Music and quality of Performance... that's it

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Old 08-16-2017, 04:01 PM
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Might be. I've just said the film stirred some deeper emotions in me, hence those afterthoughts. I do care about the band's performance but I can see outside the box that is the music and look at it as a whole. I almost regard those guys as my family members since I spend so much time with them lol

Actually BJ is the only band I pay attention to beyond the music they make and this is what makes me a hardcore I think. There's so much going on in the music biz and there's even more good stuff from the past and yet, I've never devoted more time and affection to any other band than to BJ. Oh, OK, there was this little band called Savage Garden but it was years ago. Sadly, not everybody stays together for 30+ years AND remains very much on top.
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:01 PM
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August 16th and still anything concrete about the release. It's not that I'm hot for it or anything, just wondering :3
I haven't heard anything; and don't really expect to, tbh. But day after tomorrow is Friday; so maybe Becky and golittleperson will have more updates then.

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Just watched WWWB documentary... Man, the rock and roll dream turned into an organisation - a Machine - for Jon, and back to basics - club jamming and random gigs - for Richie.

Who would have thought Maybe things can't go bigger and bigger on forever and need to come to a point of bursting.... The success changes the structure of the band but once the raw passion for music isn't the ultimate drive anymore, then it just becomes work and that's all.

I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread but needed to vent out...

You can only get so high,
Then you gotta come down.
Twistin’ in the clouds just like a kite,
Fightin’ just to stay up in the sky.
Flying in a freefall,
Before you know it, it’s your last call:
“I'll take one more drink and two packs of lies...”
Drowning with your demons in disguise,
You can only get so high.

Life was one long after-party;
My welcome was too long over-stayed.
The good times sing the same old story,
But they leave out how the bills are gettin' paid.
You give yourself 10 second chances;
Say “I ain't quittin’, I'm just splittin’ for awhile.”
Ending like so many bad romances,
One more victory lap before you say goodbye.

You can only get so high;
Then you gotta come down
Twistin’ in the clouds just like a kite
Fightin’ just to stay up in the sky.
Flying in a freefall,
Before you know it, it’s your last call:
"I'll take one more drink and two packs of lies…"

You can only get so high
Till you bottom out and breakdown.
You can only hurt so many times,
Before the truth falls from the lies.
Flying in a freefall,
Just before you hit the last wall.
You’re only gettin’ one more chance at one last goodbye.

It took a lifetime to realize: You can only get so high.

You can only get so high; then you gotta come down
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And suddenly BJ machine was able to slow down. No record every year, shorter tours, Dave's freely doing his stuff...

Yeah... Funny that.

It’s just a damn ****ing shame that it didn’t learn how to do it just a wee bit sooner. But I guess some lessons have to be learned the hard way.

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Old 08-16-2017, 05:14 PM
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Yeah... Funny that.

It’s just a damn ****ing shame that it didn’t learn how to do it just a wee bit sooner. But I guess some lessons have to be learned the hard way.
Indeed but I doubt it would happen if it hadn't been for the divorce. Some the so called lessons are triggered only to happen afterwards.

BTW. Wasn't the song about Richie's drinking problems in its entirety? That he couldn't get drunk on forever bc one day he'd just die?
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:27 PM
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The thing with FB pages is that she could be an admin, but editor privileges can be given to one or more people (pretty sure more than one but definitely one) so some can be posted by her and some can be her street team. It's not terribly important who the admin is unless they're making changes to the settings. I've always thought the RSO was a street team member but who knows.
I thought so, too. But golittleperson seems to think differently; and my friend would have agreed with her, until yesterday; but now she's on the fence. That's why we were wondering if golittleperson had something that could confirm it one way or another.

We considered Ori as the admin giving others editor privileges as a possibility as well; but she said that the situation yesterday would be strange, even if that were the case. And when I told her about golittleperson's post and mentioned the change in hashtags, she thought that was even weirder, if Ori and one of the editors were presumably on the same page.

As you say, it's not terribly important. Just idle curiosity.
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:54 PM
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I'll be home Friday, so I will update whether or not they are included in New Music Friday on Volume.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:24 PM
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... BTW. Wasn't the song about Richie's drinking problems in its entirety? That he couldn't get drunk on forever bc one day he'd just die?
A lot of people think so; and it makes sense, if you're considering it as a stand-alone song and if the only definition of "high" that comes to mind is substance-induced euphoria. But within the context of the album, "high" could refer to a lot of other things as well, like ambition and success or recognition... As in how many #1s will it take for you to know you've made it? And how long are you going to keep "twisting in the clouds just like a kite, fighting just to stay up in the sky"? When is enough enough?

I can only answer your question for myself; and, IMO, most songs have layers and subtext. The literal words are often an analogy for something deeper. So, yeah, I think it's about drinking, but I think it's also about more than that. If you go back and read what you wrote, and then re-read the lyrics, you may see the same connection I do. And you may not, because song interpretations are subjective.

I guess YCOGSH could be about drinking and nothing else. THINFS could be about a house Jon built. We know it isn't because Jon said so. But even if he hadn't, I doubt anybody would have believed it was just about real estate.
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:05 PM
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That makes perfect sense, thank you.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:20 AM
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I'll be home Friday, so I will update whether or not they are included in New Music Friday on Volume.
Sounds good; except please tell me that "I'll be home Friday" doesn't mean that you're in the hospital still (or again!)
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:50 AM
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Indeed but I doubt it would happen if it hadn't been for the divorce. Some the so called lessons are triggered only to happen afterwards.

BTW. Wasn't the song about Richie's drinking problems in its entirety? That he couldn't get drunk on forever bc one day he'd just die?
Back in 2012 I thought so as well. But with a little distance and knowing about the problems that were already present in the band throughout The Circle era etc. and his dissatisfaction I think that it's actually meant to criticise the circumstances much more than to address his drinking problems.
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