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Old 09-23-2017, 11:22 PM
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Can anyone pm me any the songs?
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Old 09-24-2017, 01:13 AM
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We're discussing a ghost EP here. It hasn't been even released yet. Some of you just have heard some leaked stuff and all you do is spoiling the fun for those who are still waiting :/ how can I listen to it with a clear head while all I know it's just an utter crap? :/

But wasn't it "leaked" by McGhee Entertainment who IS their management team? Kind of sounds like an intentional oops to see what happens. The "original" date was the 22nd.
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But wasn't it "leaked" by McGhee Entertainment who IS their management team? Kind of sounds like an intentional oops to see what happens. The "original" date was the 22nd.
After what happened with Aftermath I don't think Richie would go through that again. The site probably went live on the day it was originally planned (the 22nd) and then wasn't changed to the 29th.
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I think I figured out my problem with this album, and maybe this is what they are going for but there is no lead... Like when I listen to Rise, there is no lead singer... Just two singers harmonizing over each other... It's all very confusing... Take Me is more Richie but that song sucks...



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I like Take Me. I think my problem is that Orianthi is the lead singer in this EP at least. If I remove Take Me from this EP, it would be Orianthi feat. Richie Sambora, and that sucks. They said that this was going to be 50% half and balanced., but I see Orianthi's voice above Richie in the mixes, and this bothers me a bit. I want Richie the singer, I do not mind the absence of Richie the guitarist.

I like the music but ... I hope the next EPs will be more focused on Richie.
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I like Take Me. I think my problem is that Orianthi is the lead singer in this EP at least. If I remove Take Me from this EP, it would be Orianthi feat. Richie Sambora, and that sucks. They said that this was going to be 50% half and balanced., but I see Orianthi's voice above Richie in the mixes, and this bothers me a bit. I want Richie the singer, I do not mind the absence of Richie the guitarist.

I like the music but ... I hope the next EPs will be more focused on Richie.
Well, in Rise and Good Times I'd say that is 50-50, then Masterpiece and Truth, you're right, she seems like the lead, but you got Take Me that is only Richie.
The whole thing is more or less balanced. At least Richie appears in masterpiece and truth, I think she's not in Take Me at all, right? I didn't expect a song with only Richie, and I like it.

How far apart the EP's would be released? How do other bands do it?
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Well, in Rise and Good Times I'd say that is 50-50, then Masterpiece and Truth, you're right, she seems like the lead, but you got Take Me that is only Richie.
The whole thing is more or less balanced. At least Richie appears in masterpiece and truth, I think she's not in Take Me at all, right? I didn't expect a song with only Richie, and I like it.

How far apart the EP's would be released? How do other bands do it?
In a duet, the weight of the song to be a lead singer is easy, if this voice starts, it is already winning the thing, unless the rest of the song predominates the other singer, in Good Times orianthi opens the song with his voice, and although Richie is everywhere, she certainly has more weight, is a duet of course, but it is not so balanced. Of course it is very difficult to do a 50% song, but in Rise are very close to getting it, the problem is that Orianthi's voice is a little above Richie, and gives you the feeling that he is a secondary voice in many points.

As a metaphor, this is like seeing Mad Max Fury Road, you are waiting for more presence of your hero, but... we see him sitting in the passenger seat, and Furiosa takes the singing voice of the whole movie. And it's a very good movie that I love, but it could easily have been better if Max had been given some more weight. Balanced.

But it's not a very serious problem, I mean, this is just the EP1, and others will be on the way, I just say that I want to see Richie carrying more weight in the duets, I want some duets to be Richie feat Orianthi, and not like now. Orianthi fans have to be very satisfied.

I think I would have been happier, if they made separate albums, but with a couple of duets of both on each album.


I hope this thing is only a short-term project, it would be a disappointment that later continued to make RSO albums in this way, you know, the young girl, Orianthi is Stevie Nicks with has great brightness and Richie in the background almost in the shadows. fleetwood mac on steroids? seriusly? Most of the time is lighter.



About the songs, Masterpiece is a masterpiece, Orianthi is big in this one, Richie's voices are very good, the guitar solo is cool, and the chorus is awesome. Richie has high backing vocals in Truth too, this is what Jon should have done with the last Bon Jovi albums, to add a bit more to Richie as backing vocals, that would have been really fantastic.
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I like Take Me. I think my problem is that Orianthi is the lead singer in this EP at least. If I remove Take Me from this EP, it would be Orianthi feat. Richie Sambora, and that sucks. They said that this was going to be 50% half and balanced., but I see Orianthi's voice above Richie in the mixes, and this bothers me a bit. I want Richie the singer, I do not mind the absence of Richie the guitarist.

I like the music but ... I hope the next EPs will be more focused on Richie.
This is what I like...Bob Rock is brilliant and it's his production style that is saving this album for me...Also some of the songs are catchy and she's not as bad as I expected... Again Bob Rock is brilliant and I'd love to see what he could do with Jon...

What i don't like is...

Richie's voice has definitely changed and it seems somewhat muffled at times... With them both singing on Rise with no lead singer, which is confusing to me to begin with, throw in that muffled vocal effect and then I'm really confused... You can't go wrong with an upbeat Rockin song with Bobs production... It's like wrapping bacon on a raw piece of liverwort... but at the same time, it's just too forced...

She's better than I expected but I don't want an album by her because I'm not a fan... Someone can force feed me the new Jennifer Nettles album and I'm sure I can find a lot of positivity about it from the hooks to the production but it's just not my thing... It's not about how great or shitty she is... I'm not a fan and just because she dates Richie Sambora doesn't make me one by default... I didn't listen to Dave's musicals either...

With only 5 songs out, I don't know what they are going for... There is no ownership on certain songs and then she owns one and he owns one, and then all of the styles are different... Some are dated and the one song even had someone doing a rap which is utterly ridiculous on a RS album... They are tying too hard to be modern but they aren't modern. They are putting out music that was popular 5 to 10 years ago... but I guess if it takes you 3 years to make an album, those are the risks you run into...

Finally, I just want a Richie album... The songs aren't good enough on their own to turn me into an Orianthi fan... Her on vocals with Richie screaming in the background is just not working... This should be a Richie Sambora album with her singing as a background singer... Like what Richie does with Jon... give her a verse here and there but keep it limited... a duet doesn't and shouldn't be a 50 / 50 split... Someone needs to own it... It could be 90 / 10 or 60 / 40 but someone needs to be the lead... and then finally, an entire album of it is way too much... Richie almost sold me on this but the fact that he's making his girlfriend an equal partner, is the downfall to me... Even if they went in the opposite direction, I'd have more respect for the project but the 50 / 50 duet thing is wrong...They are not Lady Antibella...

Hopefully at the end of this I can collect 5 or 6 songs with just Richie and burn the rest out of my memory like they never happened...

This will be the first album by Jon or Richie that I will not be purchasing in 35 years...

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But this is not a Richie Sambora album, it's a RSO album. There's no rule that says he has to be the lead and she has to be in the background. I would rather a new Richie Sambora album, but this is not it.
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But this is not a Richie Sambora album, it's a RSO album. There's no rule that says he has to be the lead and she has to be in the background. I would rather a new Richie Sambora album, but this is not it.
That's my point... it needs to be one or the other... The combined thing just isn't working for me... Even if it was her album with Richie as a guest, I'd have more interest to see what elements he could add to her project... But with it all jumbled together, I don't know what's what...

I'm a fan of Richie because he is the other half of Bon Jovi... I don't like Aftermath because the songs are amazing... I like it because Richie is the artist of the band I love... Richie is not as good as Jon so I don't expect his solo albums to be brilliant (Stranger is brilliant but it was from a different time)...

What I enjoy about Richie's albums are the little elements he takes with him... so when listen to Bon Jovi songs, I get where some of their added flavor comes from... it's much deeper for me...

This RSO is just a bunch of shit... There is nothing deep going on here... It's just a guy with a lot of money trying too hard to make something that is not him... These songs aren't memorable and I won't be singing them a year from now... It's too far left... You would think Richie would learn from Jon... Change but keep it the same....

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