The Richie Sambora & Orianthi album

Those Spotify numbers are pretty disappointing, yeah.

For what it's worth, I think part of the answer lies in the fact that most people only know them as lead guitarists in somebody else's bands; and it seems they're trying to break away from being pigeon-holed as nothing more than that. Everybody already knows they can play, so perhaps they're choosing a different focus right now.

It could also be that they want people to see that they don't have to depend on blazing guitar solos to make good music, even when it's written and performed by two guitarists, because they have more to offer. JMO

I agree about preferring Richie to have the lead vocals and I'm not crazy about them doubling the vocal lead, either. Still, I'm never gonna argue if the man sings backup or harmony because, to me, that's where he shines.

It's Richie and Ori trying to be relevant, doing exactly the same as Jon does with that horrible 'modern' production.

I really wish they'd all get past that rubbish and bring out a decent honest record. Mind you, Jon tried to with his Stand up guy stuff and you guys moaned...

Richie should be doing a Slash: a decent rock album with decent guitar work. He just won't make it as a pop star 😓

The modern production is better than Shanks does.

Stand up guys was a soundtrack and I do not think it was very successful in spotify when it came out.

This is a EP with hardly any promotion, not even a video, it is evident that they are only trying the waters. And that's fine.

Slash is not a singer, he's just a guitarist, so he does not have many options to not focus his instrument.

His songs on that soundtrack are not even on Spotify, it's not worth making up things to support Richie. People aren't wrong in saying the numbers are low, it doesn't need to be excused or justified, we're talking about how the general public isn't showing interest yet. That may change but people aren't wrong in saying so.

I read an industry article about Spotify a good while back - it takes close to 1 million plays, because it is a subscription service for the artist to bank around $5K. Now, as producer, writer and artist I would suspect their percentage is higher than the standard artist but that is why a lot of them avoid spotify - IE: Taylor Swift I don't know if it has changed as the article was a couple of years old but that's perhaps a good place to get some initial interest but it's not a profit center.

As to I-Tunes - they charted in 9 countries - none very high and left the top 100 within 4 days at the longest, 1 at the shortest: http://www.itunescharts.net/uk/artis...lbums/rise-ep/

Now the chart position does not really mean a lot unless you have something relative to how many sales that equals: This is the digital sales chart that changes every 24 hours showing sales for the prior 24 hours. I did not find this site until the EP had been out about 3 days and never saw it in the top 100. But, it does give you a general idea how many sales equal a certain position. Actually quite surprising to me - this is digital only and I doubt it would include any copies direct from their web site: http://www.digitalsalesdata.com/diyd...?Region=143460

One theory - and mind you it's just that: BMG is a rather significant label - this is just testing the waters to see if there is an audience to the brand. Richie also said in a recent interview that it was doing well and that it would be 4 EP's.
That contradicts the 2 EP's followed by an album in Feb.

Saw where Jackie said something about a show in Chicago Oct. 31st - can't seem to find it and she does delete a lot of what she tweets. If they are smart, they will reschedule the Grammy Museum show (tickets were available for a bit, again per Ori tweet, don't know if still as it is only a 200 seat venue) ASAP before any interest they did generate dies down. Jovi being nominated for the HOF will maybe drive some traffic to "Where is Richie now?".

Those promo pics are so fake and cringeworthy, they literally make your eyes sore. Someone posted the Ken version of Rich from his clothing line campaign and man, I thought nothing would be worse than that! The latest one, with Richie being a grandpa in make-up, trumps everything, though. Those black and white ones are only slightly better but still awful. Oh God. I could take better pics of them and I'm definately not a pro!

By the way, if I wasn't reading these forums, I'd have no idea this is out. None of the music sites I frequent reported anything.

Yeah, I didn't expect much, but they're underperforming my expectations by a mile. I get that casual Bon Jovi fans may not be aware of or interested in this venture, but Orianthi's solo Spotify numbers are very decent and why her fans are not listening to RSO I really can't understand.

I can't see any of the record company execs looking at these metrics and be willing to fund release of a proper album with marketing, etc.

Or people overlook a lot of what she tweets...

In case you're still looking, it's still there:

orianthi
orianthi @orianthi
Yes! We will be filming live show in Chicago on oct 31 tickets on sale soon !
rockstylist/candice @rockcandystyle
@TheRealSambora @orianthi I have been waiting so long for this!! Loving the #RISE #RSO ep!! Hope you're coming to #Chicago soon!!
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