The Richie Sambora & Orianthi album

I'm not emotional at all. to be honest I find this quite amusing!

Not one post you've made today has been reasoned or informed....if it was then we would be having a debate right now instead of this pathetic back and forth...

I don't have to prove anything to you! I don't give a **** what you think. As I said, My point would be proven if you just read back through the thread, but you can't be bothered, so that's your problem....

You clearly care. (You used a naughty word btw!!!)

I’ve read the thread.

I’ll say it again. It’s bizarre for a lot of people why Richie bailed for THIS. (For the benefit of JackieBlue, it’s an assumption as it’s what’s happened.......get it????!!)

And it stirs up the same feelings with every embarrassing turn of events surrounding RSO.

Also, your post count is half of mine. I’ve been here double the time you have. Are you therefor not allowed an opinion that opposes mine?....

I honestly don't care, I just like to come here to kill some time and discuss the band that despite all of our difference we all love.

You haven't read the thread, as we wouldn't have been having this conversation in the first place.

I'm all for opposing opinions, and a good, intelligent discussion. Again, if you'd read the thread you'd know that. Your post could or my post count is irrelevant to anything. I will have a good debate with someone who's posting for the first time, if they are "reasoned and informed".

Ok it's bizarre to you that Richie left to do RSO. To me it make perfect sense. The music on the 2 EPs are very diverse. There's rock, pop, country, contemporary music, etc, etc. A lot of those styles Richie would never have got to do in Bon Jovi. They would have made the same generic sounding album they has been for the last few years, Richie was clearly bored of that. So yeah, I get it. He's stretching his musical wings. Yeah i get that it's a bit of a mash of different styles, but it is what it is.

I think a lot of people sometimes confuse what he wanted to do when he left Bon Jovi, with what they wanted him to do....

I think we all agree that the delivery and organisation of the project has been shambolic at times, no arguments from me there.

But as well, Richie gets to tour less now, spend more time on the beach, having holiday, whatever. When Richie left BJ fiveyears ago it was still very much a constant touring/recording machine and I think he'd had enough of that too. he can control his own work schedule now.

So yeah, I get it. It makes sense to me.

I've already said all of this in this thread, probably more than once.

I appreciate your reasoning and it’s all subjective which is why it makes sense to you and little to me.

But, you are the one trying to ridicule my opinion when I accept yours. I’ve stated several times I’m happy if some people are enjoying RSO. Why would that bother me?

To my ears the music is very safe, and frankly boring. (which Bon Jovi have certainly been guilty of)

But my biggest gripe is his (lack of) commitment to prove himself as a frontman and to break free from the restrictive environment Jon created. He’s amateurish, unprepared, sloppy and lazy. And he’s absolutely missed a golden opportunity to prove the likes of me wrong by really getting his teeth into a new project and actually delivering something worthy of letting people down with. (Don’t like how he did it, but he actually delivered to be fair, etc)

Jackie said it would drive the JBJ fan boys crazy with envy if Richie actually excelled himself and maybe so, but a huge part of the fan base are somewhere in the middle and would 100% get behind something special.

I might think Richie was an arsehole for how he left but had he served up something that made me go “wow” then I would be buying the album and buying tickets to his shows.

As it is, I won’t do either. And even if the music is not to my taste, if he was performing fantastic and playing great, I’d still be tempted to see him/them live.

This isn’t the case and it’s infuriating. Which irritates me even more that he left how he did! Just my opinion.


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I wasn't ridiculing your opinion at all. The tone of your first message just got my back up. I'm also so done with the comments about him leaving BJ, it was so long ago, a lot of people are still very angry at him about it. I mean, seriously, you'd think he'd murdered their mother, not left a band!

I have no disagreement with you about him missing golden opportunities. I saw him 3 times in 2016 opening for Bad Company. The first time was a complete embarrassment, the 2nd time he was fantastic. The third time was somewhere in between...I honestly do feel that he is in better shape now from what I've seen.

I get why you are frustrated and agree with some of your point. I also appreciate the reasoning! All good!

I think we’re meeting somewhere in the middle then. That is a start.

I can see why continual comments about him leaving would irritate. I don’t follow this forum like I used to but I try to catch up when I can. I have The Answer tattooed on my arm as it’s one of my all time fave songs. I’m by no means a JBJ fan boy.

Seven Years Gone is still one of the best songs this decade for me. So I have high expectations of RS which is why I get pissed off at this sloppy version of him.

Anyway, I’m glad we have somewhat parted on friendlier terms.


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no poison at all, just a fact... Even with no hard feelings, trust gonna take time to rebuild, if they want to come together... For unexplain reasons, RSO still cancel shows these days... So, if you don't know the reasons, how can you be sure that you can count on Richie now? After all the past failure?... It's hard, even if you want to... To forgive is one thing, to forget is another one...

But don't misunderstanding me...
Even if i admire Jon for what he stands for and how he does it, i know that he 's not 100 percent honest. Nobody can in front of the public's eye... With a massive fanbase all around the world. There is pressures and expectations... Even if, Richie disappointed me the way he managed things and his communication (leaving without a word, congratulate his past-partners in a public video instead of a visit or a phone call)...
I still love them both and admire their legacy, enjoy their music.... They are the most important part of the soundtrack of my life, through the good and the bad times... I'll be glad to see them back together 'cause i follow the band since 1990 and the chemistry between these two miss a lot... But I know that even if they're coming back together, it would probably won't be the same again... And i trust me, i only hope the opposite.

Maybe Richie wants to come back, maybe he won't and is very happy the way the tings are... Maybe he didn't know how to make a step back with the guys... Maybe he did it and we ignore that... (Yes, he has his part of maybes too, you see But the fact is, without expecting the worst from any of them, it takes time to rebuild the trust between them and with some parts of the fans...

I'll be very happy to see the boys play at least one concert together with the hope... And as you said, just enjoy and bask in the knowledge that our boyz have received this huge, well-deserved honor and there's a good chance that they're all gonna come together in a few months to celebrate and stop the critics of one of them after a new interview... My point was not provocative at all, just a respond to a bashing on jon with no reason in a tread about RSO and their music ... not about Jon or his interview... I just tried to said to you that is not the place and just asked you to be fair with both of them...

Now I'm not gonna answering about this anymore 'cause, like you said,
any further explanation will open the door to further derailment, and more bashing and flowing poison.

Hope to discuss with you about their music anytime soon, yours sincerely respectfull Bon Jovi fan.

Yup, good stuff! There's lots that we can all agree on! I love both The Answer and Seven Years Gone too! The new stuff isn't anywhere close to up there with those, but I find stuff to enjoy in it. Particularly the Making History EP

I'm not sure I know of another way to interpret "He left to form a band with his girlfriend" other than the reason "He left" was "to form a band with his girlfriend."

If I said, "I went inside to get some milk" wouldn't you assume that I was saying that the reason "I went inside" was "to get some milk"?

And yes, all of that is conjecture. The only indisputable fact we have is that Richie wasn't on stage in Calgary and he hasn't played with the band since. Everything else is conjecture based on bits and pieces of the stories. We don't know why he left or under what circumstances, we dont know why he hasn't returned, we don't know if he quit or if he was fired or if it's still unresolved. We know he appears to be under the influence of something at times, but we don't know that he is. IF he is, we still don't know if that was the cause or an effect of him leaving. We can choose to believe what we hear from one source or another, but even then, we dont really know that what they have said is 100% true and complete. We know that Richie hasn't set the world on fire but we don't know why. Some think he's moved on and he doesnt want to be in the band; but we don't know that. We don't know if he tried to come back and was refused the opportunity. We dont know if he was invited back and refused that opportunity. As Larg said earlier, he "seems" to be okay and doing what he wants; but in those statements, Larg made a Freudian slip himself when he said "he pretends to be happy". If we really thought he was happy, why would we think he's "pretending".


When it gets right down to it, there's a whole lot more about this situation that we don't know than there is that we do.

At any rate, I was mostly teasing you, anyway, about the idea that Richie left the band just so he could hitch up with this girl and make less than brilliant music together. Trying to inject a little humor into a thread that seemed to be going downhill fast. Sorry if I offended. It wasn't intentional.

None taken at all. It’s all about opinions anyway.


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