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Old 07-27-2018, 04:09 AM
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But it also takes a lot of work if he's really going to see the benefits of it, a lot of playing live, a lot of doing promo etc and I'm not sure that Richie's got that in him anymore. he'd rather be on the beach, and I can't say I blame him. I hope I'm wrong, but I see him slowing down now, as well as JBJ....I guess they both already have to be honest...
THAT'S the part I'm questioning. He could do it, yeah, but after how Aftermath went down and how everyone dropped the ball on RSO it's starting from scratch and rebuilding it all over again. New band, new partner etc.
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I think before Orianthi gets sent off to the old lady’s home, we could consider someone like Chris Stapleton who is 40 and been trying to make a name for himself nearly 20 years. It’s only been in the last 2-3 years that the industry has gone Chris Stapleton crazy.
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..(A)fter how Aftermath went down, and how everyone dropped the ball on RSO, it's starting from scratch and rebuilding it all over again...
Part of his problem with promoting Aftermath is that Jon called the band back to work ahead of schedule. And I'm sure that the flopping of the RSO album played a role in Ori's departure, too.
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Part of his problem with promoting Aftermath is that Jon called the band back to work ahead of schedule. And I'm sure that the flopping of the RSO album played a role in Ori's departure, too.
Part of it, yes, but I'm more referring to the label head leaving completely throwing it all to the wind. PLUS the unintentional leak of the record.
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Part of his problem with promoting Aftermath is that Jon called the band back to work ahead of schedule. And I'm sure that the flopping of the RSO album played a role in Ori's departure, too.
I don't believe that lack of promotion had any impact on the album what so ever... First of all, the songs aren't that great to begin with... 7 Years is the song that should have driven the album which was mistake number 1... But all the other songs are good at best. Nothing earth shattering...

Second, A Richie Sambora album in 2012 is nothing more than a fan album... Even with all the promotion in the world, that album was going nowhere .

If Bon Jovi the band can't even get any radio play, how the heck is Richie going to...

Third, he promoted it enough... I have a ton of interviews from that time... He was on Howard which is huge exposure and he also did that 5 day run on Craig Ferguson... Plus I remember he did a bunch of other stuff too...

what more could he have done?

There was just no demand for a Richie album in 2012 besides a handful of Bon Jovi fans... it saddens me too but it's a fact...

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Right but when the head of the label is behind your project it's not just about late night tv appearances. If there's no demand you make demand. The album and tour flopped partly because it didn't have label support. The head of the label has connections, can make things happen, out of the box ideas. The album was barely supported by a tour.
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Right but when the head of the label is behind your project it's not just about late night tv appearances. If there's no demand you make demand. The album and tour flopped partly because it didn't have label support. The head of the label has connections, can make things happen, out of the box ideas. The album was barely supported by a tour.
They know that going into it... it's part of the risk...

BTW, Late night TV isn't really late night TV anymore because of the internet... and Howard Stern has a huge audience... I also saved a bunch of other radio and TV promo stuff he did during that period... I agree that he's not going to get the support mainly due to the lack of demand, but he got some decent exposure...

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First of all, the songs aren't that great to begin with... 7 Years is the song that should have driven the album which was mistake number 1... But all the other songs are good at best. Nothing earth shattering...
That's all just your opinion though, not fact. I rate Aftermath over anything else Bon jovi related in the past 10 -15 years and have listened to it way more than anything since Lost Highway. It's not a perfect record, but to me the majority of songs are fantastic, especially You Can Only Get So High, Seven Years Gone, Learning How To Fly, Every Road, etc...
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They know that going into it... it's part of the risk...

BTW, Late night TV isn't really late night TV anymore because of the internet... and Howard Stern has a huge audience... I also saved a bunch of other radio and TV promo stuff he did during that period... I agree that he's not going to get the support mainly due to the lack of demand, but he got some decent exposure...

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Of course there's a risk involved but when your album leaks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it should and the guy that signs you ups and leaves those are two kisses of death to an album with a limited audience. The promo he did was pretty mainstream but it wasn't enough and had the album not leaked and it got the label's attention it would have reached more people.

Late Night Tv absolutely serves a purpose because a lot of people watch it the next day online and going viral is nothing but great news for a project like this.
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The thing with her age is, she had a good shot and buzz. She had magazine covers and she was actually starting to get studio gigs more regularily. I think she was almost too old back then, and quite happy for her.

Now she is older and she has lost a lot of following like myself. She had sort of passive crowd to draw from with Cooper, that she has lost. She is almost back in the square two so to say.

She is older, not any better - it seems they didn't spend too much time practicing which she used to do, a lot. There are a lot of good guitar players take Neil Swanson - who played as the third guitar with Richie and Ori a while ago - he is amazing. Yet, there he was.

Richie on the other hand has a name that can never be taken away from him. It is not quite Jon Bon Jovi but it is a name. If he comes up with a good song it might sell. Ori on the other hand - might not.

And in the end for Richie, I expect sooner or later he will be back with the band.

Richie is an older gentleman and in all fairness he has done his share for the world in the earlier days of Bon Jovi and earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants. He can afford it, too.

Ori on the other hand will have to make a living. Look at Jennifer Batten who too is mind bogglingly good. She is older but is the difference relevant? Ori will not be able to get ahead with her looks for that much longer, either.
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