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I don't think he's doing all this as a tax write off, that's a lot of work for a tax write off. I think he's honestly doing in his heart what he wants to do, which is however many years of pent up aggression about not being able to call the shots as a sideman. Notice how big of a juxtaposition it is to complain about not being able to jam solos with Bon Jovi and then having him and Orianthi soloing at the same time during a bunch of songs?

I'm curious to what the album will sound like but it seems pretty scattered so far. Like a lot of recording and then starting over completely.

Sorry, I guess I'm not very good at writing sarcasm. We all see that they are still recording and doing a lot at the mixing boards. I am Not a pro, but I have family/friends who are and best I understand from this point - art will be next, then making sure all the music is registered with all the little alphabet in the industry so that the pennies per play become dollars. Then the album is mastered - if this is not done well it will sound like the school play we all recorded. You have to stabilize sound and flow. Now marketing decisions on how many copies to actually press, arrange download and streaming for sales. Promotion to peak interest has to be done -(which has been going on for 17 months?) - then Release dates. I'm sure I missed some steps but this is a general idea. BEST case from mix to release if everything is done with a strong work ethic is 2 months. A major label takes care of a lot of the steps, independent less and so far I've not seen a label mentioned so if it's self released???

Their PR team called them a "rock power couple" and I think that's being promoted more than anything. He has enough money to never work, if they want to play rock star or just do little shows so be it, but this is "scattered" IMO. Not even a tease of this new sound? I always thought feedback was useful to all the other steps. It could go either way - major sound or major mess.

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Sorry, I guess I'm not very good at writing sarcasm. We all see that they are still recording and doing a lot at the mixing boards. I am Not a pro, but I have family/friends who are and best I understand from this point - art will be next, then making sure all the music is registered with all the little alphabet in the industry so that the pennies per play become dollars. Then the album is mastered - if this is not done well it will sound like the school play we all recorded. You have to stabilize sound and flow. Now marketing decisions on how many copies to actually press, arrange download and streaming for sales. Promotion to peak interest has to be done -(which has been going on for 17 months?) - then Release dates. I'm sure I missed some steps but this is a general idea. BEST case from mix to release if everything is done with a strong work ethic is 2 months. A major label takes care of a lot of the steps, independent less and so far I've not seen a label mentioned so if it's self released???

Their PR team called them a "rock power couple" and I think that's being promoted more than anything. He has enough money to never work, if they want to play rock star or just do little shows so be it, but this is "scattered" IMO. Not even a tease of this new sound? I always thought feedback was useful to all the other steps. It could go either way - major sound or major mess.
haha sarcasm is tough to read on forums, my bad for not even considering it.

Scattered is the perfect word for what this project looks like from the outside.
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Sorry, I guess I'm not very good at writing sarcasm. We all see that they are still recording and doing a lot at the mixing boards. I am Not a pro, but I have family/friends who are and best I understand from this point - art will be next, then making sure all the music is registered with all the little alphabet in the industry so that the pennies per play become dollars. Then the album is mastered - if this is not done well it will sound like the school play we all recorded. You have to stabilize sound and flow. Now marketing decisions on how many copies to actually press, arrange download and streaming for sales. Promotion to peak interest has to be done -(which has been going on for 17 months?) - then Release dates. I'm sure I missed some steps but this is a general idea. BEST case from mix to release if everything is done with a strong work ethic is 2 months. A major label takes care of a lot of the steps, independent less and so far I've not seen a label mentioned so if it's self released???

Their PR team called them a "rock power couple" and I think that's being promoted more than anything. He has enough money to never work, if they want to play rock star or just do little shows so be it, but this is "scattered" IMO. Not even a tease of this new sound? I always thought feedback was useful to all the other steps. It could go either way - major sound or major mess.
I know next to nothing about what’s involved in the actual recording process, but it sounds as if the two-month timeline from mix to release would start from the final mix. Is that right? Is that the only time that’s spent at the mixing boards like we’ve seen in the pictures? I guess I've just assumed that a lot of what we've seen has also included them basically trying stuff out to see what works – kind of like demos, rather than final cuts, although there may have been some of those along the way. I haven’t followed it that carefully. At any rate, I’ve just figured that Richie, as well as some of the people who have been working with him, would understand the whole process better than I do, for sure, so I really haven’t given it too much thought. But now I’m curious.

I do have a question about how you arrived at 17 months for promotion. IIRC, Richie and Ori didn’t even meet until the very end of December of 2013, which would only be about 18 months ago. And a lot of the time since then was spent doing the promotion for the shows they did last year and doing the actual shows themselves. They’ve talked a lot about writing and recording, in a non-specific way; but I wouldn’t consider that “album promotion” per se, especially since it doesn’t even have a name yet, that we know of. Is that what you’re referring to? Otherwise, how are you coming up with 17 months that they’ve been promoting this album? Again, just curious.
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Any word on whether this will be a "real" album or a digital album? I know there's a growing trend of digital albums and I HATE that. The more people go in that direction, the more I feel like I'm losing my music. I'm one of those people who want to hold a cover in my hand and read the liner notes, etc.

PS: I don't want e-books either.
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I know next to nothing about what’s involved in the actual recording process, but it sounds as if the two-month timeline from mix to release would start from the final mix. Is that right? Is that the only time that’s spent at the mixing boards like we’ve seen in the pictures? I guess I've just assumed that a lot of what we've seen has also included them basically trying stuff out to see what works – kind of like demos, rather than final cuts, although there may have been some of those along the way. I haven’t followed it that carefully. At any rate, I’ve just figured that Richie, as well as some of the people who have been working with him, would understand the whole process better than I do, for sure, so I really haven’t given it too much thought. But now I’m curious.

I do have a question about how you arrived at 17 months for promotion. IIRC, Richie and Ori didn’t even meet until the very end of December of 2013, which would only be about 18 months ago. And a lot of the time since then was spent doing the promotion for the shows they did last year and doing the actual shows themselves. They’ve talked a lot about writing and recording, in a non-specific way; but I wouldn’t consider that “album promotion” per se, especially since it doesn’t even have a name yet, that we know of. Is that what you’re referring to? Otherwise, how are you coming up with 17 months that they’ve been promoting this album? Again, just curious.
What I'm thinking about is when they toured Oz in Feb 2013 she said an album together and actually mentioned April in an interview. Don't think anyone thought that was realistic. Then that was clarified as going into the studio between OZ and Europe. About same time was something about how many songs they already had written. I think it's all on boards here. Then they were recording in Europe ( I think that is what ended up being her ERLHTY on her best of.) Before that he mentioned Storybook Love, maybe on the album when he was in NJ, just a lot of pieces from so many interviews and their social media that seem to be focused on their album - which "to me" is promotion. (Luke Ebbin was gone and Bearden brought in so that was probably a start over point.)

You are correct as I was told - from Final Mix. Most bands are on some budget, theirs or record companies so when they go into a professional studio with engineers and crew, they are ready to record. (Tony Lommi said Black Sabbath was recorded in 12 hours. That's the other extreme I guess.) Last one of them said was August and I don't expect it personally.

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I just did a cover of "I Got You Babe" with orianthi! It's the 50th anniversary of the song, so we felt like putting our own twist to it. Check out the preview and get ready because we've got some big things coming!

https://youtu.be/f7Y5gUWowdI


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I just did a cover of "I Got You Babe" with orianthi! It's the 50th anniversary of the song, so we felt like putting our own twist to it. Check out the preview and get ready because we've got some big things coming!

https://youtu.be/f7Y5gUWowdI


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ce=twitterfeed

Richie's voice sounds shot in the acoustic bit - but the chorus just blew me out of the water!!!!!
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Okay okay, my excitement is going up a bit now.
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Oh Boy! I don't know about this one. The studio production clip at the end saved me from ripping this up entirely.

For starters, I Got You Babe. Forget the fact it's Richie's Ex blah blah blah but could you get anymore cliche & corny...

- Richie's voice sounded really rough during the acoustic session. (It has for a while now, even in the two clips at the end of Wanted and Lean On Me but I thought it would have improved somewhat by now).

He lost that smooth, passionate voice that's needed to carry a song. Kinda like someone else we know.

- Her voice is louder than his in the overall mix. Maybe it's supposed to be that way. But I want this new album to be a Richie album with Orianthi. Not a duets type thing. I'm worried....

- He needs to get back with Jon. I'm having a hard time taking him (and this whole thing) serious. This is an artist who did Stranger In This Town and I really want to believe he left Jon due to musical direction. I'm having second thoughts.

- If this is his way of holding onto his young girlfriend, so be it. Once this all dries up and she leaves him, Richie might really go off the deep end. He needs to reconcile with Jon and they both need to listen to every album they did from 7800 to TD's as reminders of what they used to be.

- Richie gives us a 10 second preview of a cover song and says that this is the "direction they are heading in". Huh... Why not just give us the whole song? It's a cover song that they threw together in a studio. No one is sitting at the end of their seats waiting for this thing.

- Pros - The studio clip sounds decent. I actually like the production and it's nice to see them (Richie) working with other producers. If that's the direction he wanted us to hear, then I'm somewhat happy. Shanks and Ebbin overstayed their welcome with these guys. Up this point, I've been staying very far away from this project so I don't know who the players are but I like what I'm hearing...

I also like their "spin". It does sound fresh and modern. With the right production and vocals, this could actually work which it sounds like it does so far. I'm not as excited as Capt Jovi but they do have my attention somewhat.
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I'm not excited, I said the excitement is going up. I do agree though. I'd assume the whole thing wasn't put out for legal reasons, it may be going on a different project. Maybe a tribute album or something?
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