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Old 08-22-2015, 08:09 PM
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i am trying to close it but you keep on going...
you prove me where i m wrong with bb king...prove it...he called him rikie...richie has an outgoing personality and easy meets people that doent mean he is close to bb king and buddy guy...its ok not to be, the thing i m focusing is that he tries to exaggerate when its convinient for him, anyone here knows richie in some extent richies words should not be taken as the whole truth, the same goes for jon,
anyway let it go and move on, as i said again you keep commenting in every post you disagree and you become tiring. i am not more or less fan than you, you dont know me, u just read a couple of posts and started saying things like imaturity,lies, optimism and keeping the faith when noone started a discussion like that with you...
you can agree or disagree, dont categorise me though and dont act like you are always right.give it a rest

ps1.sorry if i was more irritated in my first post but you sounded offensive to me.

ps2.thnx seb for the post cause i was starting to feel like an evil genius calling out some of richies bullshits...

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Old 08-22-2015, 10:02 PM
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I just want to add that Richie was never a great bluesman, at least not on record. Who knows what he is like jamming with some of the legends of the genre, but from his recorded output he is not a top blues player, and to be honest he is not even close to being one. Not even on Stranger.

That said, what he always had was the ability to add to a song with his guitar, and he was one of the few from that era to mix the blues with hard rock in such an obvious way. Don't get me wrong, in his own right and at his best Richie was a stunning player, but Bon Jovi fans try to place him a)alongside technical greats, or b) as a true bluesman... he is neither, but did have his own unique talents.
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i am trying to close it but you keep on going...
Blame it on the love of mutual comprehension and honesty!


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But that's the thing. Some of us do know what the relationship between Richie and several other stars are.
Yeah, that's the thing. You're right just because you say you are. Easy.

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... Richie has a habbit of calling everyone his friend when he's played with an artist once.
Yep! He behaves like many (most of?) professional musicians, so hang'em high!

I don't know you and you don't know me either so stop assuming you know more than I do. FYI I perfectly know that Richie tends to exaggerate things but so do you. As I said, the BB King thing was just an example among others and this topic has been discussed before on this board as well. Again, my point was more about how you guys "state facts" that are untrue or unknown/not proven right or wrong and express opinions and feelings about Richie, Jon and all the other guys. How many times shall I reformulate until you understand? You find me tiring and annoying, I think the same about you, fair is fair! This is a forum, i.e. a place dedicated to expressing yourself. I'm as entitled as you are to do so, if you don't want people to react to your posts, don't post! Whenever you post, you start a conversation. Common sense, anyone?

I've been working with musicians and various artists for too long to ignore that what the public see is only the tip of the iceberg, that's why I can't stand/hate it whenever people jump to conclusions and claim they know them because they've been listening to their songs and interviews for ages or had a chat with other bands, you couldn't be more wrong! But of course you're entitled to think that I am wrong and that what you see is what you get.


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The same goes for you saying as to people on here not knowing how Richie's perceived in the business. I do, and I'm sure others do as well. I've talked to other acts, and I know several other people who have talked to other band members, asking what they think of Bon Jovi and all of that.
Oh really? So you're claiming you know each and every person working in the music industry all over the world? WOW! Lucky you! How strange though because I'm sure I don't know you IRL. Let's just say we have different sources and leave it there.

So OK, guys, you win: you're perfectly right, that's what you wanna hear, right? Whatever I may say, you're always replying that you know better than me and accuse me of being the one who keeps on ranting when you don't, still you can't prove that your statements are any better or truer than mine so, apart from arguing for the sake of arguing because you can't stand me/my posts, what do you have to say that would be relevant? Yeah, you better move on!
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PS: for the record, I've never said I thought that Richie was a bluesman or a great shredder or ???, neither in this thread or in other ones. But, as semigoodlookin put it, he "did have his own unique talents."
- I've never said that I believed everything he said was true.
- And I envy you guys for knowing "what he thinks"! So please tell us all, ignorant fans who can't decipher Richie's
discovered soul, what was he thinking in the morning of 4/2/2013?
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:50 AM
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discovered soul, what was he thinking in the morning of 4/2/2013?
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:14 AM
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Yep! He behaves like many (most of?) professional musicians, so hang'em high!
Yeah, which is pretty much what Nikos said, and you then accused him of being incapable of judging the relationship. But then you will confirm what I say, and pretty much agree that he's full of shit.

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As I said, the BB King thing was just an example among others and this topic has been discussed before on this board as well. Again, my point was more about how you guys "state facts" that are untrue or unknown/not proven right or wrong and express opinions and feelings about Richie, Jon and all the other guys.
Yeah, and my statement was that you're unable to judge on here as to what is an opinion, and what is a fact, because you've got no idea as to what people on here know about that's not being spoken of on this board. You are the one here being all judgemental, not nikos. Pretty much everything he says is either clearly an opinion, or just pretty much a fact. If you're incapable of taking it in that way, that says more about your capabilities of reading a post than it says about nikos presenting his opinions.


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How many times shall I reformulate until you understand? You find me tiring and annoying, I think the same about you, fair is fair!
I've never said such a thing.

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This is a forum, i.e. a place dedicated to expressing yourself. I'm as entitled as you are to do so, if you don't want people to react to your posts, don't post! Whenever you post, you start a conversation. Common sense, anyone?
Never said such a thing either, nor did I ever complain about you nor your posts.

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I've been working with musicians and various artists for too long to ignore that what the public see is only the tip of the iceberg, that's why I can't stand/hate it whenever people jump to conclusions and claim they know them because they've been listening to their songs and interviews for ages or had a chat with other bands, you couldn't be more wrong! But of course you're entitled to think that I am wrong and that what you see is what you get.
I agree. Which is why I find it appaling that Becky on here says she did a character study on Jon Bon Jovi based upon his interviews, and honestly thinks she knows what the man is like, even though most of his actions contradict the conclusion of her "character study". Many fans are blinded by their love for an artist that it makes them incapable of reading between the lines. I wholeheartedly agree with that. Yet with all of that said, it still doesn't take a genius to figure out that Richie's completely lost it both as an artist, and as a person. The guy is a trainwreck and it clearly shows.

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Oh really? So you're claiming you know each and every person working in the music industry all over the world? WOW! Lucky you! How strange though because I'm sure I don't know you IRL. Let's just say we have different sources and leave it there.
I've never said such a thing either.

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So OK, guys, you win: you're perfectly right, that's what you wanna hear, right? Whatever I may say, you're always replying that you know better than me and accuse me of being the one who keeps on ranting when you don't, still you can't prove that your statements are any better or truer than mine so, apart from arguing for the sake of arguing because you can't stand me/my posts, what do you have to say that would be relevant? Yeah, you better move on!
I don't give a **** as to whether you think I'm right or not. All you've done so far is either reply with sarcasm, accuse me of thing I haven't said. Pretty much your entire reply is based upon things that either weren't said, or things that really don't have much to do with it. And as for my statements being better; I will never say your opinion is wrong. I might question it, I might find it retarded, but I won't say it's wrong. It's your opinion after all.

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Old 08-23-2015, 04:25 PM
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More misunderstanding and contradictions... OUCH!
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I've never said such a thing.
Just a word to make it clear that I didn't mean you in particular (or else I would have quoted you), it was a generic comment aimed at several JTers at the same time, if they didn't recognize the behavior I described, good for them, life is beautiful.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:53 PM
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jon answered some questions about richie in vancouver yesterday, he repeated anyone would be lucky to call him his friend...nice to see some perspective and peace, i hope jon misses richie musically and richie appreciate a bit more the former bandmates...
anyway no need to further fuel the disagreement, its just a forum, none of us is happy with the current situation, for some of us its harder to accept it, its just that richie can be so great that the last couple of years sometimes is hard to accept some things he said and done..., peace
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So, what are the odds that there will never be a record?

I am of the mind that the pair are just playing rock stars and on permanent holiday with some guitars involved. The romance will be over well before they ever get a record made let alone released.

Kinda sad in case of Orianthi if this happens. She showed some promise before this mess. She was pushed into background early and now is she even performing, at all?

And Richie is Richie love him or hate him, this is not exactly surprising stuff at least in my opinion.

Yeah, I am depressed. I thought this was a bad idea to begin with at least for everyone except Richie who at least gets to bang her. Then again Richie being Richie he could be banging something infinately hotter :P and Orianthi might still be playing guitar and who knows she might have lived up to the promise one of these years
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So, what are the odds that there will never be a record?

I am of the mind that the pair are just playing rock stars and on permanent holiday with some guitars involved. The romance will be over well before they ever get a record made let alone released.

Kinda sad in case of Orianthi if this happens. She showed some promise before this mess. She was pushed into background early and now is she even performing, at all?


BINGO! I've thought they are playing rock star fame and fortune. She for a while was heavy posting the house after she moved, car, beach house, trips.... then throw in a studio pic. A lot gets deleted too.
As to performing: She has 3 local shows coming up in Oct. She is scheduled for the cruise with the Allman Brothers I think in Jan. She was released or quit hard rock depending on who you listen to last NYears when her Vegas show was cancelled. Hard Rock had sponsored her in Manilla. She was late to the Malibu guitar fest, did 2 or 3 songs and left.("Waste of Vodka" on Allmans IG night before, so??) I'm Not expecting much music from what she called yesterday "RSO". But still says soon........ All they have released was their version of I got You Babe and apparently NBC played a snippet of a song called Rise after the horse race (not heard anyone say they actually heard it). Doesn't matter how long it takes to put an album together ( months or years between releases) but can't remember anyone talking about it for almost two years.
Never mix business and pleasure - guess he didn't learn from the fashion fiasco - but this had started before that ended too.
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