The Richie Sambora & Orianthi album

That was my point... it's totally justifiable but I think he's just frustrated. I lool back to when he was doing press for Aftermath and he was so relaxed, confident, cool, big personality, and was very likable...

His solo career is not really taking off as expected. Wasn't his 4th solo album, with just him, supposed to be out 2 years ago??? Now this duets album is taking forever... He must have a ton of material bty...

This might sound dumb but I think he is losing credibility amongst his peers. He had to beg Slash to call him through social media to come and be a guest on his album... I don't think he got a responce....

It's gotta be a shot to his ego that Jon can carry the weight of Bon Jovi without him... Say what you want about the music and tour, Jon is still getting it done... He probably thought the band would crumble, Jon would come begging, and have to go solo, which in turn, make Jon lose a ton of money... it's quite the opposite. Now Jon could even make more money without giving up a big chunk to Richie.

When it came to Jon and Richie, Richie was always the cool guy even when it came to non Bon Jovi fans... You could hate Jon, you could hate Bon Jovi but people always respected Richie... Now that he's out of the band and the band isn't really mainstream, it seems as if people don't carry him on that same level anymore...



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I really don't know where you get the idea that Richie has always been "respected." He hasn't. His entire press coverage outside Bon Jovi for his career has always been based on who he's sleeping with and his addictions and arrest record and potential lawsuits. He's NEVER been widely known as a GREAT guitarist. For instance, when Sirius did their "best guitarists" feature a few months ago across several stations, Richie was never even mentioned and he certainly wasn't on their list. (I posted it in the Other Bands forum.) The only reason that guys "liked" Richie was that he was getting the pieces of ass that they wished they could get for themselves. That's the only thing that made him cool. They still thought Bon Jovi sucked and that meant Richie's contribution to the music sucked just as much as Jon's.

No Becky. I don't agree.

Take a band like the Foo Fighters. They hate Bon Jovi music, hate Jon's style of live entertainment but still respect Richie as a guitarist.

Come on Becky, even given your girly hard-on for Jon, you gotta know that Richie was the guitar player (instant "this guy brings the rock"-association when contrasted with a cute lead singer) and the guy that contributed stuff like If I Was Your Mother. Even more recently, the reviews for Aftermath cited him as being "the guy who often is labelled to be held back by being in an uncool band" (and then slagged the album, because it sounded a lot like BJ).

Don't be hating. Maybe it's different in US tabloids, but music magazines, especially those focusing on rock music, always paid respect to Richie. Jon's second solo album especially fared far worse in those circles, furthering the respect gap.

It is like that in the US too.

Depends on where you're looking. I don't believe he was talking about youtube commenters or those types of Rock fans that think anything that doesn't sounds like AC/DC or Metallica sucks. I believe they were referring to countless articles citing Richie as being the most musically respectful guy within the band, when they were inducted into the UK hall of fame critics labeling Richie as the creative force in the band, a lot of Rock magazines throughout the years basically saying "Bon Jovi sucks but Sambora is a great guitarist". And not to mention comments from guys like Frampton, Clapton, BB King, Les Paul, Steve Vai etc... all commenting on Richie's versatility and soulful technique that he didn't get to showcase within the context of Bon Jovi.

I'm not hating....hell, I was just defending him two posts ago. I'm just telling you what I've seen and what I've heard in conversations with actual people who don't live in the microcosm of a Bon Jovi fan group. I've read a lot of rock magazines--used to collect *everything* that had anything to do with Bon Jovi from pen pals all over the world. This "Richie Respect" isn't something that I've seen in spades. What I HAVE seen in spades is references to where his dick is hanging out and how Bon Jovi--including Richie--is just a pop rock band with nothing much to offer any fan of "real rock" music. And that INCLUDES Richie's contribution. Bon Jovi INCLUDING Richie is NOT well reviewed by critics. Richie is NOT the saving grace of the band. The guitar work is NOT spectacular or outstanding. He's gotten about the same amount of respect as CC Deville. He's just another hairband guitarist who will never be known as great until he drops dead from an overdose or airplane crash because that's the way the music industry works. When you die, you're suddenly the best thing since sliced bread. How many Best Guitarist lists has he made that weren't put together by a magazine like Metal Edge or Circus? He's a likable fellow and that's why people say nice things about him. His playing doesn't earn him critical acclaim. When he's been in the business over 30 years and he can't even get mentioned on a 100 Best List, it's pretty sad. Bon Jovi are NOT critics darlings. That doesn't mean WE don't like them and WE don't think they are good. But there's no point in pretending that Richie is some kind of critic's darling that he's not.

I don't know Becky... I've read those same magazines and been following this band just as long and my conclusion points towards Richie's respect. You'll hear comments like Bon Jovi sucks but Sambora is cool. I'm going with the majority on this board. Sorry

If Richie really was the loser that *some people* stubbornly say he is, world famous musicians would never invite him onstage and on their records, they'd rather die than be seen by his side. The music business is a small world, there are musicians that are blacklisted for being assholes or worse and Richie's not on this list. He's not on all those silly "best/greatest guitarists" either, he doesn't need it to be respected by his peers and music lovers.

His problem is that he's too nice and polite, he should behave like the rockstar that he is and just ignore the annoying paparazzi that stalk celebrities at airports instead of replying to them.


He was supposed to release his 4th album in 2013? Never heard of that!

re/this album: Ori said they have written about 60 songs (which is a standard number for prolific writers) and recorded about 10 so far. >2 years to work on an album is normal procedure, especially when you start working with new musicians you've never worked with before.

Maybe it was mid 2014... I know he was working on his 4th album and had a lot of material back then, even before he got together with her... then she took over and I believe she was going to be a guest player on some tracks which then morphed into a duets album...

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