This House Is Not For Sale (2016) - Post First Single Release Album Discussion

The video I believe was the live stream of the concert.
The early release of the album on Tidal was just a bold prediction, never confirmed.

That's what I was going to say. The general consensus is that some songs are not well "blended" in the vocal department and a non expert blames whoever put the song together. Well and Jon of course, who has the final say.

I was thinking it could be because they did several sessions over a period of more than a year and supposedly re-recorded some songs, went back and added, stopped working for a while and started again with a different frame of mind... I guess it's possible that they didn't bother to find a more consistent *feeling* specially while they were labeless. If this is what happened, wouldn't it make sense to re-arrange the older songs, remix them or whatever to have more consistency with the newest? I mean if they are already working on some songs, would it really make a difference to hire the studio/personnel for a couple more hours for extra work on those songs?

Although, if Devil's is from the first batch according to Jon, maybe the earlier songs were perfect and it's a good idea they didn't tinker too much with them, BUT, in theory the songs on ASCAP where registered pre-breakup with the label and Devil's is not there, so who knows? They may have written those songs and recorded them later (FYI the songs on ASCAP are Labor, Born Again, Knockout and Come On Up to Our House if I'm not mistaken)

Except for THINFS and Knockout, whatever effects they are using are subtle enough and the vocals are good on almost every song, they just went overboard on the singles and then butchered innecessarily parts of songs that probably were fine before. I don't think God Bless This Mess would sound like it does (i.e. more "natural") if it ended up being a single like Jon said. Funnily, I do think THINFS needs the extra punch for a first single considering is not working so well live, but the rest only need more backing vocals on the weak parts.

What do you think? Why so many unnecessary effects when it's clear that the live version is far better and more importantly, Jon can sing them convincingly? I guess they *embellished* the singles/potential singles for the radio, to sound more aggressive, rockier, more modern, but this time the "sound like HAND" magic button didn't work smoothly and almost ruins songs that are good and have decent vocals to begin with.

No album, so they obviously screwed up.

As for the video, I'm guessing they intend to put up the concert stream after editing it... making it the video for this week.

It was based on Tidal's tweets; two within an hour of each other declaring both exclusive streaming and Oct 21st.

Thanks for all the hard work rolo!

And also to whoever posted the snippets in the first place. You made my day

I agree, except for the part of "low quality MP3 sample". iTunes samples for example are, if I'm not mistaken, exactly the same quality as the final MP3/AAC which you can buy, so I would hardly call that "low quality". And don't get me started on that unneccessary FLAC stuff 320kbit/s MP3 is perfect for most use-cases, AAC probably even better...

Also some of the problems discussed would still be noticeable if it was a "really low quality" MP3 or whatever...

But yeah, we're all so used to the live versions now, that I'd agree: wait for the whole songs/album, let it sink in a bit and then make a judgement.

The best way to hear this, is obviously expected to November 4. But even you stay two very long weeks. Patience is not one of my virtues.

We only waiting for hear Touch Of Grey, and exclusive track Tidal, I guess it's Color Me In.

Or it's Touch Of Grey as well. Who knows what "exclusive" means nowadays, it doesn't mean what it used to for interviews anymore as well, so...

For me, the live versions supplement the album. They aren't setting the bar for what I expect from the album. Both will have their strengths and weaknesses. Based on what I've heard of the album, I'm going to enjoy both equally. Think of the two as different mixes.

Definitely give the studio album time to settle in and listen to it through different sources amd situations. Snap judgements aren't accurate.

I can only understand this in Goodnight NY:
Any idea?

Goodnight NY
Never ¿? Your eyes
If this dream could talk ¿?
They are ???
So ban??
Your face ???
Run east to west
These dreams??? Are blessed
Goodnight NY
???? NY goodnight
Stop or speed it
Trust on every street ???
Grow with light shine
And wrap me everybody beautiful
Walking on my hand and reaching for the skyline
I’m????
????????????? backing up??
????????????? the kids can’t sleep
????????? welcome to the ?
Goodnight NY, goodnight
Don’t ever ????? your eyes
If this streets could talk
New Y, New Y
So ban??????????
Your faces ????????
?????????
Run east to west