This House Is Not For Sale (2016) - Post First Single Release Album Discussion

What does the law of diminishing mean??

It's a single. Aimed at enticing a wider audience than just Bon Jovi fans. (whether it's successful in achieving that is debatable/doubtful)

It could represent the whole album or none of it.

I'm not suggesting anyone shouldn't hope or want something fresh or original.

I'm pointing out that Bon Jovi are known for this style of song. On EVERY album there are songs such as this. They may differ in production but they are there.

I prefer heavier songs, decent guitar solos, emotive lyrics. But this is Bon Jovi. And you get a mixture. Some songs are throwaway, some have dubious lyrics. It's always been that way.

Maybe the difference is the balance. On previous albums, especially NJ, KTF, TD, the ratio was more in favour of songs with depth, heartfelt lyrics, powerful delivery. But there were still some filler songs with lazy lyrics. (NJ & TD perhaps the exception)

Let's not kid ourselves otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

I basically meant to say that with each time they do the same stuff, I, as a fan, enjoy it less and less.

Given that Richie departed and how half of BB sounded, I felt it was reasonable to expect something different. So that added to the disappointment.

But your points are good, I guess it simply comes down to expectations, which were higher than last time on my behalf.

THINFS is no more or less generic than Saturday Night, the pre-release single for BB. Sure I'd love more tracks like Who Would You Die For or Teardrop, but those were not the first single.

It's late and I'm too tired to search the previous replies and see if someone already posted, so here it is. "Bon Jovi Updates" translated that article from the German Universal's site. Includes partial lyrics and comments from Jon.

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Good article. Album seems a bit moody.

Im wishing for Dave solos , in the style of pink flamingos , homebound train type of thing .....

Problem is, it got played once on radio 2 and then nothing since. Zero plays on music TV channels. Missed the top 100 in the charts. It's barely enticing people who are casual fans of Bon Jovi let alone a wider audience. That's not necessarily the songs fault, but something a bit more different may have captured the imagination of someone who may promote it. As it is, it gave us a new song as a fanbase, but didn't even make a dent in the wider public's consciousness. Bon Jovi aren't a singles band anymore, but they (the record company/PR/Band/whoever) haven't even managed to get this one off the ground. Plus points for a bit of social media work, black marks elsewhere.

I do understand that. I too was hoping for something else (a genuine rock song) but was not surprised when they released a "safe" single.

The album will be the test. 12 similar songs to THINFS will be a wasted opportunity.

Thank God, it won't be like that! The description of the songs in the article gives the impression that the album will have variety!

I honestly think without serious PR, interviews, appearances etc, any style of song would probably have struggled in terms of chart position. A radio friendly song has more chance of airplay. That is the logic of a record company.

I think Who Would You Die For is a better song than Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning. But as a lead single hoping to catch the ear of a casual radio listener, it's pretty clear which song would get the nod. How many times do people flick radio stations if a song hasn't grabbed them within 15-20 seconds? Right or wrong that's the criteria most labels/radio stations go with.

The irony (lost on the record company/maybe the band too) is that it now seems a quality album track would be just as successful commercially as the radio friendly song.

The only avenue the band could take at this stage of their career that would grab a new fan base is with the hard rock/metal audience. They lost a lot of that audience before Crush. And certainly since. But they could recapture some of it had they opted for a genuine hard rock album.