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Old 09-15-2016, 08:36 PM
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IMO, the key to succesful music videos these days is a hook. Something about the video that gives me a reason to keep the tab open and not just browse other sites while the music is playing in the background. It can be story-driven, but that needs to be way quicker than BWC's one! Get the viewer hooked and curious what's gonna happen next, not just "this is a story" - keep the reasons to watch on coming! It also can have visual tricks going for it that, again, keep one wondering what's gonna happen next. Really, it's very similiar to pop music itself.

The Keep The Faith video thrives on just being shot extremely well, but the cheap performance videos of a bunch of 50something year olds don't cut it as far as that goes.
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Burning bridges was way berter than what about now!
True say, some of those songs had more depth than the majority of WAN.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:57 PM
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True say, some of those songs had more depth than the majority of WAN.
Nah, I disagree that it's a better album. It's all over the place, and the lows are REALLY low.
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Did Shanks just play with Bon Jovi at that Target event as second guitar, or it's just my lying eyes?
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Old 09-15-2016, 09:34 PM
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Yep, he did. There's a bit of talk about that in the thread about promo shows.
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Nah, I disagree that it's a better album. It's all over the place, and the lows are REALLY low.
The difference is that the good songs are really good (in my opinion). And one of their main selling points is passion and not the same old same old.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:25 PM
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That's true, but albums have an arc to them. BB obviously does not. Who Would You Die For has more passion than any song on WAN, but that does not make its carrier (is that even a term in this case?) the better album.
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I don't class WAN as a Richie album btw. He obviously had very little to do with it.
Ok so now I have to adhere to your definition of what a "Richie album" is? Regardless of whether he contributed as much to that album, he was still in the band - that's a fact.

It's all a matter of taste, but as Captain Jovi said, we have 2 bloody songs and you're acting as though everything's changed. The Circle had Live Before You Die and We Weren't Born To Follow - both of which I'd consider much worse than THINFS and KO, and Richie co-wrote both of them. And as mentioned, what about BB?
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Ok so now I have to adhere to your definition of what a "Richie album" is? Regardless of whether he contributed as much to that album, he was still in the band - that's a fact.

It's all a matter of taste, but as Captain Jovi said, we have 2 bloody songs and you're acting as though everything's changed. The Circle had Live Before You Die and We Weren't Born To Follow - both of which I'd consider much worse than THINFS and KO, and Richie co-wrote both of them. And as mentioned, what about BB?
You don't have to adhere to shit. That's what I think and how I'm judging things. Richie may have officially been in the band but it's blatantly obvious he took a back seat and let Jon and Shanks take over, anyone with ears can hear it.

As for Burning Bridges? It was a throwaway album. Full of B sides and scraps that Jon threw together as a contractual obligation. I don't see why some people here give it a second thought.
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You don't have to adhere to shit. That's what I think and how I'm judging things. Richie may have officially been in the band but it's blatantly obvious he took a back seat and let Jon and Shanks take over, anyone with ears can hear it.

As for Burning Bridges? It was a throwaway album. Full of B sides and scraps that Jon threw together as a contractual obligation. I don't see why some people here give it a second thought.
And anyone with eyes can see Richie co-wrote those songs.

I know you're unsatisfied with the bands direction over the last decade or whatever but it's stopped you from giving things a chance. Why shouldn't we give BB a second thought? What makes them less of songs recorded by the band? No one knows officially why Jon wrote the songs and when they all came from but they still exist as songs and things Jon wrote. If songs like Fingerprints and Teardrop to the Sea come from Jon writing throwaway songs then there's still hope.
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