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Old 10-29-2016, 10:55 AM
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It is sdafe to say that the only thing THINFS has to do with 2016 rock is the Riff on ""Devils in The Temple", the only rock song on the album - even though I don think it is a very good one.

2016 modern rock for me is Alter Bridge. Listen to their new album. They mix old with new- lots of guitars, deep lyrics - emotional songwriting
Not sure why you'd consider Alter Bridge lyrics on the new album any deeper than something like Scars. Just read all the lyrics for Alter Bridge album and there really isn't any deeper insight there than anything else.
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I guess we all got your point Hardwired, you're disappointed the album you've been waiting for the last 25 years won't be this one, again. But as you mentioned it, when it comes to 25 year old stuff, you'll get pleased next November 18th. To quote crap Spears song, you should stop living with the ghost, no future living in the past

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Thats true most of the time but JBJ surely had his Springsteen moments. Blood on Blood the WAN acoustic songs. Trying to make BJ look like the EStreet band with lots if extra musicians etc etc....
Nah, Bullshit... Jon is a fan so there is/was some influence but that's where it ends

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I hear a keyboard driven AOR song from the 80's there
Electric Dance Music... That's what you are hearing

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It is sdafe to say that the only thing THINFS has to do with 2016 rock is the Riff on ""Devils in The Temple", the only rock song on the album - even though I don think it is a very good one.

2016 modern rock for me is Alter Bridge. Listen to their new album. They mix old with new- lots of guitars, deep lyrics - emotional songwriting
Cmon now...
Poor example. Alter Bridge is a good 21st Century hard rock/metal band. I have their previous two albums yet they are so much different than Jovi ever was, even back in the 80's.
Listen to Tame Impala "Lonerism."
Now that's example of superb rock now a days.
Not a band trying to stay relevant after it's success with Creed,
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So are most artists at age 54. Wake up and stop livin' in the past.
Stop. We are giving this guy way too much attention and his arguments aren't justified... His facts are wrong which are driving his opinion... It's like trying to explain your taste buds as to why you like a new flavor of ice-cream. In short, because you do...

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Nah, Bullshit... Jon is a fan so there is/was some influence but that's where it ends

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Harsh critics always called Jon a Springsteen wannabe - you know that right?
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Electric Dance Music... That's what you are hearing

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Nothing to do with dance. I used to love all 80's melodic rock stuff and this is a keyboard influenced AOR song. Nothing to do with dance music I am afraid. Try danciong to it - no way
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Depends, you'd probably have hard rock which is something like maybe Royal Blood. Pop rock which is something like Coldplay (and yes they are considered a rock band...came through at the same time as Muse and lauded in Q magazine in the same issue back in 96 when there was a big Jovi spread.)



Bon Jovi have always leant towards pop rock instead of hard rock and I'm still puzzled why people don't seem to realise this.


Most people do realise it, I think. The rock genre isn't as pigeonholed as it used to be. Jovi had elements of hard rock surrounded by pop rock from SWW onwards. The first two albums were more rock than pop.

The point I was making was they are mainly ignored in the rock press. They were all over Kerrang, Raw, Metal Hammer etc during the late 80's, early to mid 90's as they still knew how to write a cracking ROCK song despite moving away from their (questionable) hair metal tag.

The Devil's In The Temple is the sort of modern rock song that harks back to that genre. (riffs, grittier vocals) But one song is not enough to wet the appetite of fans who still listen to guitar driven rock bands, be them new or old.

It's a huge market to ignore/ be ignored by.

Edit: This is in reference to attracting newer fans. How many people do we all know who complain how BJ has "forgotten how to rock, gone soft, don't like guitars any more" etc etc?

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Harsh critics always called Jon a Springsteen wannabe - you know that right?
Okay and ever more reason why Jon wanted to break that shadow

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