we nade it look easy

A&R peopele's taste scares me more than Jons sometimes haha. I think timing will always have a lot to do with it. The uphill battle to get a hit song from a band past it's prime is so much higher than one with cache behind it because of recent success from strictly studio success.

Been thinking about this though, for as much flack as Jon gets for not liking Prayer....it's not like he heard the final version and said "This is no good" haha. That rough acoustic demo pre talk box, pre final riff, just a droning e minor in the verses, it probably wasn't much special at that point. Though real glad Richie and Desmond saw what could be.

Of course, you're absolutely right. It's a cute little story that's been told but no doubt the truth is quite different. Jon said as much in a bunch of interviews for the documentary.

You're also right about timing. I've said it before but if Bon Jovi released LOAP today it wouldn't be a hit, and if Luke Combs released Kiss The Bride it would be a number 1 song for 6 weeks.

Big catchy hook where? It's like saying that repeating life is limitless, limitless, limitless (x20) is big catchy hook. It's memorable alright, it's the name of the song also, but it's sickening more than catchy.

It honestly feels like verse, and not chorus. This doesn't mean the song will be bad, though

Surely you must understand that not everyone thinks the same way as you? Why do you feel the need to CONSTANTLY argue with people. You've made your point, you don't need to go on and on and on. It's so boring.

If you don't like it, cool. If others like it, also cool.

There are quite a few on the board who could do with reading this

Surely you must understand this is a discussion board?

By Oxford Dictionary, discussion board or a message board is a place on the internet where people can exchange ideas and opinions about a topic. They can also argue, take positions, change and refine those positions when challenged, provide and receive context, information, feedback.

I have no problem with anyone liking or disliking something. I'm here to discuss, and not nod my head "cool" and walk away. Of course, it's your absolute right to do that. I don't remember insulting anyone or trolling, or whatever against the rules.

I'm genuinely interested in different opinions, not to change mine (nor to change theirs), but when you go more into detail, then some patterns and notions begin to surface. And that to me is insight also for my own band, creative process, marketing structure, understanding of music business, etc.

BTW this is the first time I listened to We Made it Look Easy snippet and my first comment and reply to my comment. What is the point here, those who are not thrilled with something need to shut it, so others who like it can go on and nod with "cool" replies?

Being asked "Why do you find something hook-y" doesn't really have a concrete answer/discussion point of entry sadly.

I don't know? The melody pleases me I guess. I don't like that the title is repeated so much, I would have love that swapped out but the melody hooked me in. Not up to me or do I care if it will be a hit, I enjoy it enough for ME.

Alright. Well, for my part of the DISCUSSION on the DISCUSSION BOARD, I don't find it a strong hook (it doesn't mean it cannot be a strong song, but just without hook) and I commented because I fail to see what made Jon think it has a hit potential.

Hence, my own conclusion is that I think Jon puts high emphasis on lyrics over other parts of the song (the most evident with Welcome to wherever you are notion of being a future hit). But when lyrics are good and/or important to him, it's probably not very good proxy for a hit or hook potential of the song in general.

Is it fair that I now typed this opinion of mine, even though others may or may not agree, may or may not get any insight from this? Or should I just type cool and be accepted into the cool club?

I think both "camps" need to temper this meta-discussion btw. Nor is repeated, excess negativity insightful with calls of not even listening to new releases, but same goes for these "aren't you tired of expressing your opinion on online discussion board" calls

That's good. Not everyone is going like every song of "Forever" and will have different views.....But I do wish some fans stop expecting something that's not going to happen and that's a return to the past in sound.....(SWW-TD)

This Album sounds promising, the problem is fans may expect more from Bon Jovi on the next Album(s) and end-up being disappointed......To me let's enjoy Bon Jovi making Albums still, even if it will never reach the heights of the past.....

And that even if Richie Sambora was back and John Shanks was replaced.....