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Old 07-19-2010, 09:52 PM
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There's a big difference between a hit and a monster hit.

HAND was a hit. A top 10 hit in more than 15 countries. The song reached #53 in the Hot 100 and was certified Gold in the US.

Yes, It's My Life was bigger, but HAND was a hit too.

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nothing but an overly produced tarnished rock wannabe 12 string hit that sucks.
Although some awsume stuff is on that same album.

livin on a prayer needed no old woman-like hair-dye frontman to reach the audience. lol
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:54 PM
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Bon Jovi had no hits in the past decade, except for Its my life.
Where were you during the release of Have A Nice Day, Who Says You Can't Go Home, Misunderstood and You Want To Make A Memory.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:59 PM
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You could maybe try Who says you can't go home on Kentucky or at some political campaign, aside of that, no one's heard of it; dare you play it at some pub? u'll get boo'd to death.

Its reality, Bon Jovi haven't been the megamass band they've been in the 90's nd 80's.
Wow. That's gotta be 2 of the dumbest posts on here in a while. Who Says was a HUGE hit, one of the biggest of their career in the US at least.

Bon Jovi has sold more records in the 00's than they did in the 90's (in the US anyways). Granted, they released more albums, but 3 of them outsold These Days.

As for Have A Nice Day as a single:

"Have A Nice Day" charted at #2 in Sweden, #6 in the United Kingdom, #7 in Germany, #8 in Australia, #8 in Finland, #10 in Switzerland, #10 in Japan, #53 in the United States (Billboard Hot 100) and #38 on the US Mainstream Rock Tracks chart.
Chart↓ Highest
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Billboard Hot 100 53[1]
Billboard Pop 100 38
Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks 38
Hot Digital Songs 25
Hot Digital Tracks 24
Hot 100 Singles Recurrents 8
Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks 6
Swedish Singles Chart 2
Dutch Singles Chart 5[2]
UK Singles Chart 6[3]
Austrian Singles Chart 7
Canadian Singles Chart 7
German Singles Chart 7
Australian Singles Chart 8[4]
Finland 8[5]
Norwegian Singles Chart 8
Japan 10
Irish Singles Chart 18
Italian Singles Chart 7[6]
Swiss Singles Chart 10[7]
Spanish Singles Chart 2[8]
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Perhaps you were in a coma during the release of Have A Nice Day, Who Says You Can't Go Home, Misunderstood and You Want To Make A Memory.

You surely know that anything marketed and invested in, will end up selling something, right? since you live in a superficial consumption society; and you know whats a successfull investment and whats not, right? so you figure the rest.

You can call a hit, something that people will remember in 2 -3 years from the release of this hit; something u'll play anywhere and people will go wow; when people go ''put some lady gaga on'', that was not a hit.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:09 PM
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You surely know that anything marketed and invested in, will end up selling something, right? since you live in a superficial consumption society; and you know whats a successfull investment and whats not, right? so you figure the rest.

You can call a hit, something that people will remember in 2 -3 years from the release of this hit; something u'll play anywhere and people will go wow; when people go ''put some lady gaga on'', that was not a hit.
Not sure what you're trying to say exactly, but Who Says is 5 years old, is still played on radio, and is still a big hit live.
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Wow. That's gotta be 2 of the dumbest posts on here in a while. Who Says was a HUGE hit, one of the biggest of their career in the US at least.

Bon Jovi has sold more records in the 00's than they did in the 90's (in the US anyways). Granted, they released more albums, but 3 of them outsold These Days.

As for Have A Nice Day as a single:

"Have A Nice Day" charted at #2 in Sweden, #6 in the United Kingdom, #7 in Germany, #8 in Australia, #8 in Finland, #10 in Switzerland, #10 in Japan, #53 in the United States (Billboard Hot 100) and #38 on the US Mainstream Rock Tracks chart.
Chart↓ Highest
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Billboard Hot 100 53[1]
Billboard Pop 100 38
Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks 38
Hot Digital Songs 25
Hot Digital Tracks 24
Hot 100 Singles Recurrents 8
Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks 6
Swedish Singles Chart 2
Dutch Singles Chart 5[2]
UK Singles Chart 6[3]
Austrian Singles Chart 7
Canadian Singles Chart 7
German Singles Chart 7
Australian Singles Chart 8[4]
Finland 8[5]
Norwegian Singles Chart 8
Japan 10
Irish Singles Chart 18
Italian Singles Chart 7[6]
Swiss Singles Chart 10[7]
Spanish Singles Chart 2[8]
You're as dumb as it gets yourself i reckon, just check what songs are being played at gigs, how often is HAND played nowadays? i see These Days being played though, i even see Diamond ring. why is that? its cause These days was actualy liked by the audience, while HAND was an over-produced pushed forward failure that didn't get the reception they had planned for it. capiche?

Just do the calculations, how much was spent on production of albums in the 90's then in the 00's? how many albums released? how many gigs? audience at gigs?

Take all that into consideration, and you'll figure that Bon Jovi was much more productive in the 90's that in the 00's, need i elaborate? i dnt have the time to btw, where are the old diehards to help me out?

but its pretty obvious, i guess.

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You're as dumb as it gets yourself i reckon, just check what songs are being played at gigs, how often is HAND played nowadays? i see These Days being played though, i even see Diamond ring. why is that? its cause These days was actualy liked by the audience, while HAND was an over-produced pushed forward failure that didn't get the reception they had planned for it. capiche?

Just do the calculations, how much was spent on production of albums in the 90's then in the 00's? how many albums released? how many gigs? audience at gigs?

Take all that into consideration, and you'll figure that Bon Jovi was much more productive in the 90's that in the 00's, need i elaborate? i dnt have the time to btw, where are the old diehards to help me out?

but its pretty obvious, i guess.
LOL, HAND is played much more frequently- and generally gets a better reaction live- than These Days. And HAND songs like LMS and the mainstay Who Says are played far more commonly than any TD song.

You're mixing up your love of TD with the truth: that in the band's eyes. HAND- commercially- was far more successful than TD, at least in the States. It also produced one minor hit in HAND and a big hit in Who Says. I realize TD did better in Europe than it did in the US, but HAND didn't exactly tank in Europe either- as I understand it the title track was a bigger hit in the UK than it was in the states, for instance. And you're clamoring for old diehards to give you statistics: that's exactly what danfan is doing for you. Are you daft?

The truth of the matter is, commercially Bon Jovi have been much more successful in the 00s than the 90s. I agree with you- I prefer the 90s albums over anything- but that doesn't change the fact that HAND goes down better with a crowd than TD, or Who Says somehow gets a better reception than Hey God.

Who Says was a mass hit in the US and is known well enough internationally that it'll be on there no matter what- and rightfully so. So will HAND. Thinking otherwise is plain ridiculous.

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You surely know that anything marketed and invested in, will end up selling something, right? since you live in a superficial consumption society; and you know whats a successfull investment and whats not, right? so you figure the rest.

You can call a hit, something that people will remember in 2 -3 years from the release of this hit; something u'll play anywhere and people will go wow; when people go ''put some lady gaga on'', that was not a hit.
Also, i think trying to discredit his opinion just because he's from America is kind of fcuked up. I could discredit your opinion by saying people in Lebanon don't know music because they're too busy listening to the sounds of suicide bombers, and you would probably take that as an insult. Similarly, not everyone over here is a semi-conscious drone.
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You're as dumb as it gets yourself i reckon, just check what songs are being played at gigs, how often is HAND played nowadays? i see These Days being played though, i even see Diamond ring. why is that? its cause These days was actualy liked by the audience, while HAND was an over-produced pushed forward failure that didn't get the reception they had planned for it. capiche?

Just do the calculations, how much was spent on production of albums in the 90's then in the 00's? how many albums released? how many gigs? audience at gigs?

Take all that into consideration, and you'll figure that Bon Jovi was much more productive in the 90's that in the 00's, need i elaborate? i dnt have the time to btw, where are the old diehards to help me out?

but its pretty obvious, i guess.
You're really out of touch with the commercial aspect of Bon Jovi in the States.
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Who Says was massive in the states. Chartwise, it was one of their best singles ever. It was played a lot then, and I still frequently hear it on the radio now.
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You're as dumb as it gets yourself i reckon, just check what songs are being played at gigs, how often is HAND played nowadays? i see These Days being played though, i even see Diamond ring. why is that? its cause These days was actualy liked by the audience, while HAND was an over-produced pushed forward failure that didn't get the reception they had planned for it. capiche?

Just do the calculations, how much was spent on production of albums in the 90's then in the 00's? how many albums released? how many gigs? audience at gigs?

Take all that into consideration, and you'll figure that Bon Jovi was much more productive in the 90's that in the 00's, need i elaborate? i dnt have the time to btw, where are the old diehards to help me out?

but its pretty obvious, i guess.
You must also realize that songs chart different here in the States than they will over in Europe. I like the 90's albums as much as they're other albums, but if you're talking about success, just think. They put out 2 studio albums in the 90's and 5 in the 2000's.
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