2008 US Election

And probably want revenge on the world for the way China was treated by the western countries at the beginning of the last century.

I don't think they forget easily.

Exactly the same is happening with Russia only they are not 'supported' by the US but by European countries with huge deals made over last few years.
In principal we are all indirectly financing their military & weapons as both countries only use the cash to invest in that unlike in healthcare etc etc.

It isn't really weird that Russia has most millionairs nowadays (almost all from oil industry), even outbeating China, Japan & the US when I can still remember the pictures thousands of people fighting over the last bread in some town...not too long ago...

there will still be people fighting over food in russia...

but now that the oil isn't owned by the government it means there's alot of rich people who do own it...

but i digress i saw this today and thought it was pretty cool that obama is doing this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7522738.stm

Obama in Germany on European tour

Mr Obama held talks with Chancellor Merkel
White House hopeful Barack Obama has landed in Berlin to begin the European leg of his international tour, ahead of November's US presidential poll.

The Democratic senator is meeting Chancellor Angela Merkel, Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Berlin's Mayor Klaus Wowereit.

Tens of thousands of people are expected to gather later when he makes the only public speech of his tour.

Mr Obama, 46, is due to visit France on Friday and Britain on Saturday.

The BBC's Steve Rosenberg, in Berlin, says the Illinois senator is very popular in Germany, where surveys suggest three-quarters of people want him to be the next US president.

Hopefully [the speech] will be viewed as a substantive articulation of the relationship I'd like to see between the United States and Europe

Barack Obama


Diary: Barack Obama's world tour
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He says Mr Obama will be hoping that once TV pictures of him addressing cheering crowds of Berliners have been beamed back to America it will boost his image as an international statesman, and his chances of beating Republican rival John McCain this autumn.

Mr Obama flew to Germany after visiting Israel and the West Bank.

On the eve of his arrival in Berlin, Mr Obama told reporters: "Hopefully [the speech] will be viewed as a substantive articulation of the relationship I'd like to see between the United States and Europe.

"I'm hoping to communicate across the Atlantic the value of that relationship and how we need to build on it."



German Country and Western fans explain why they support Obama
Big crowds are expected for his evening speech - which will be shown live on German television - at the Victory Column in central Berlin's Tiergarten Park.

Ms Merkel reportedly blocked his campaign team's plans for him to deliver the address at the Brandenburg Gate, which stood behind the Berlin Wall for decades as a potent symbol of the Cold War.

The Gate is where President Ronald Reagan famously urged Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to "tear down this wall" in 1987.

President John F Kennedy - with whom Mr Obama is sometimes compared - also visited the Gate in 1963, although his famous "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech was delivered elsewhere in the city.

On Friday, Mr Obama will meet French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Paris before wrapping up his tour in London by calling on British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his predecessor, current international Middle East envoy Tony Blair.

Mr Obama has also visited Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq and Jordan in the last few days.

"We're borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet. Every bit of that's got to change.
"The above are quotes from Al Gore - but a right wing republican isn't going to listen to logic - or common sense."

Al Gores 'common sense' got him c's in sciences in college. There is at least just as much evidence AGAINST the HYPOTHESIS of global warming, and yet people treat it like a religious doctrine.
And anyone who disagrees with Gore is a right wing ideologue?
It is insulting to science and logic to eliminate intelligent discussion by arbitrarily saying a consensus has been reached and the debate is over simply because it suits your personal/political aspirations. Keep your 'common sense,' I don't want any part of it. You simply can't change the foundation of an entire national (international) economy based on a simply unproven hypothesis just by saying that is proven.

Skim this and try and convince me that the debate is over on this and that we have destroyed the planet. It's ridiculous.
http://www.petitionproject.org/
Over 31000 verified scientists disagree with the hypothesis. Over 9000 are PhDs. Yet this is not covered anywhere in Al Gore's 'scientific' vernacular.

"President John F Kennedy - with whom Mr Obama is sometimes compared"

Ugh, make me gag. Obama is no Kennedy. Sure, they both have charisma, but Kennedy knew what he was doing.

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just something I came accross.

I never knew that the majority of US Citizen are originals Germans (!) even whatever times more then (original??, wtf?) Americans and American Indian, I was suprised, maybe you not... anyway;


Top 2000 US Acnestries by Country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C...-by-County.jpg


Or are they even going further back in time and assuming most Europeans are Germans anyway .... grrrrrrr

I do know that a lot of people who live in the mid-west are of German ancestry - not just generic European. Part of my husbands family is from Wisconsin and that part of the family - and all their friends (for the most part) are German.

If you look in the south-east though - there is a category that is American (not American Indian). I wonder who they are since all Americans came from somewhere else except for the American Indians.

Yeah I was wondering the same (hence the WTF? ....

If you get down to it, trace it back far enough, does that make us all Pangaeans?

Wonderful comment from Gerrard Baker in the Times:

He ventured forth to bring light to the world
The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

And so it was, in the fullness of time, before the harvest month of the appointed year, the Child ventured forth - for the first time - to bring the light unto all the world.

He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the

Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.

And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.

From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.

And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.

And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.

From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.

In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.

As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.

And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.

The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.

And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.

Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.

And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.

Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.

But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.

And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.

Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.

On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.

And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”

And priceless reaction from clueless yank in the comments:

Would you please stop making fun of Jesus? This was hard to read without becoming angry. Obama is not Jesus, for those of you who don't know!

Rachel, Montgomery, AL, United States