2008 US Election

And there are Mr. Obama's associations. Let's start with the infamous Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Mr. Obama expressed shock that Rev. Wright would say things like "God damn America" and say the American government created AIDS to commit genocide against black people. Yet he belonged to that church for 20 years. He was married by Rev. Wright, had his children baptized by him, and even took his book title from one of the good reverend's sermons.
When Rev. Wright's outrageous diatribes surfaced, Mr. Obama refused to renounce him. Then when Rev. Wright repeated the same statements at the National Press Club, and Mr. Obama had clinched the nomination, suddenly he denounced him. Why? He said Rev. Wright's statements in D.C. were unlike anything he had heard before and he was shocked. But those statements had been in the news for months. Are we to believe that Mr. Obama had not read or heard any of the news for weeks? Or that he never heard anything similar in more than 20 years of listening to Rev. Wright's sermons? Hmm.



The American government created AIDS to commit genocide against black people? Yes, this is the church that Obama belonged to for 20 years. First, lets cut the FORMER church nonsense. It doesn't take a mental giant to figure out that he had to leave the church once he was nominated for president, which is the ONLY reason he left. These views are nothing short of extreme, and he abandoned them only to suit himself and this election.

Palin is showing her true colors, like them or not. Obama is hiding his, and this is what I have a problem with.

To lighten the mood:

http://www.peteyandpetunia.com:80/VoteHere/VoteHere.htm

I love these!

No matter what you hear it WAS NOT ME.

Mousebounce covers the FORMER church thing nicely just behind my post.

Yes, the stem cell research veto was stupid. But Christians in government are far less of a threat than the left-wing media would have you believe. Show of hand here folks: Who in their heart of hearts honestly believe the government has a snowball's chance in hell of criminalizing abortion or homosexuality? If you do, I've got a bridge in New York you might be interested in...

Adrian

plenty of them are having a good shot at keeping gays as 2nd class citizens and both mccain and palin have stated they want to overturn roe v wade. it wouldn't surprise me if they did make a concerted effort to do it even if it was through covert means such as influencing tomorrows voters in the churches and classrooms. we know this already goes on, they could easilly ramp it up a notch.

as for being dangerous, the current christian in power is waging quite the war against people of another religion. oil was obviously the biggest reason, fighting terror probably appears somewhere on the list but we all know there are ALOT of folk in america and in government that are happy that this particular war is killing lots of muslims.

As a long time democrat Im not voting for Obama mainly for the above reason, if u hear Obamas rev speak (its on u tube) thats enough for me, he says a hell of a lot more than that, its shocking..... some of those pulpit speeches must be inside Obama's head over the past 20yrs... Im not taking a chance on that.... its all just an act..... Obama talks but doesnt actually say much....

Dawn

they never got close....but a few men were arrested.

Dawn

Maybe he needs even more cowbell?

Off topic: Alex, that is my FAVORITE episode ever! I love it!

Maybe they WANT to overturn roe v wade. Like I said, there's no chance of that happening, and even if, EVEN IF they managed to, there's no way it would ever be followed. Abortion is here to stay, and it ain't going away. Ever.

As far as keeping gays as "2nd class citizens" that's another non-issue. Gay marriage has been spreading at a state level and more and more companies are issuing domestic partner instead of spousal benefits. When you look at the last 8 years under a "conservative" administration, has the gay rights movement made more or less progress?

That government shouldn't be in the business of approving ANYONE'S marriage is another topic entirely...

Yup. Our governmental officials are in this to kill muslims. That's the dirty little secret behind our foreign policy. No misguided belief in taking the fight to the enemy or securing American interests overseas or halting the spread of terrorism - it's all about killing muslims. Got it.

Adrian

given who much disdain you have for the powers that be you seem pretty willing to swallow the "we're fighting them over there so we don't need to over here" line pretty well...

not that i need to remind you but iraq was never a threat, never housed al qaeda and never had weapons that would be of any threat to the US.

iran falls pretty much into the same boat.

north korea on the other hand...

i'm not saying theyve made a conscious decision to go in and kill muslims en masse but that IS what is happening and there are plenty of people in the corridors of power who will be smirking themselves to sleep over this. it's a convenient by product of this conflict and there is a sizeable number of republicans on another board i post on who are literally wetting themselves with excitement at the prospect at another war with "dem iranian sand niggers" and more than a handful of them said they'd be perfectly happy to nuke the entire middle east if given half the chance.

i'm confident these are not isolated incidents since i know plenty of fairly moderate righties who echo the same sentiment because theyve swallowed the GoP mantra hook line and sinker.