2008 US Election

Kathleen · #**561** 10-13-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian

http://townhall.com/columnists/HughH...&comments=true

Different websites say different things.

Adrian

I'm sure you can find lots of websites that say differently. However factcheck.org is a nonprofit, bipartisan group.
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The website you are quoting has the names of known right wing (or Republican) supporters. It's actual name is "Conservative Issues, Republican Politics, News, Presidential Candidates, Campaigns, Town Hall Debates, Iraq War, Blogs, Political Cartoons ... " This does not give it any credibility whatsoever as a non-partisan site and a source of FACTS not innuendo.

Not to mention that the date on your article is April 17th and the date on the one I posted is October 10. Just maybe it's a bit more up to date.

bj54 · #**562** 10-15-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrian

The part about palling around with terrorists? Wasn't Bill Ayers a terrorist? If he was, and if he is as the Obamination describes, one of his best friends, then palling around with terrorists is a perfectly acceptable description.

It certainly freaks me out that Obama counts as his closest friends a guy who built bombs to blow up Americans and a "minister" who preaches "Godd*mn America."

But hey, maybe those kind of friendships are normal for you.

Adrian

Totally agree with you. Ayers,Rev. Wright are people he associates with who hate our country and spread hate. If they hate it so much, they can leave. Now Obama may not be like them totally, but birds of a feather flock together.

bj54 · #**563** 10-15-2008, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

I'm sure you can find lots of websites that say differently. However factcheck.org is a nonprofit, bipartisan group.
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About FactCheck.org
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We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.

The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels.

The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.
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The website you are quoting has the names of known right wing (or Republican) supporters. It's actual name is "Conservative Issues, Republican Politics, News, Presidential Candidates, Campaigns, Town Hall Debates, Iraq War, Blogs, Political Cartoons ... " This does not give it any credibility whatsoever as a non-partisan site and a source of FACTS not innuendo.

Not to mention that the date on your article is April 17th and the date on the one I posted is October 10. Just maybe it's a bit more up to date.

Well, Kathleen, I just found out that the Annenberg Foundation had Obama on their board for many years and he disbursed 60 million dollars of their funds every year. That is a conflict of interest.

Kathleen · #**564** 10-15-2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bj54

Well, Kathleen, I just found out that the Annenberg Foundation had Obama on their board for many years and he disbursed 60 million dollars of their funds every year. That is a conflict of interest.

Obama was on that board before he ever took office. What does that have to do with Adrian claiming that he and Bill Ayers were/are best friends. That was one of the sites I checked to refute that comment. Snopes is another:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

Shaz · #**565** 10-15-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce

Both of them dodged questions which is no shock. McCain did crappy when it came to the economy and Obama did crappy when it came to foreign policy. No real surprises there. We should be allowed to have a "none of the above" option. If the majority agrees, then they should have to find two new candidates. Both are pretty bad this time around.

Brooke, I know voting is not compulsory in the States [it is here], but can you vote 'informal' at your elections?

S.

Thunderstrucker · #**566** 10-15-2008, 02:46 PM

What I don't understand is that Americans still have their doubts on who to vote for.
I mean, come on, a 72 year old guy (how can he have a fresh look on life with that age) and when he dies or can't be president anymore the even more crap Palin will become president. Voting for McCain will be a major downgrade.

I salute you,
Thunderstrucker

BeExcellent · #**567** 10-15-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker

I mean, come on, a 72 year old guy

A 72 year old guy, with a history of skin cancer, and a massive growth on his left cheek in plain sight.

BeExcellent · #**568** 10-15-2008, 04:27 PM

Did anyone else find McCain's "he's a decent man. We just happen to disagree" moment very strange to watch?

It really seemed like it'd finally dawned on him what happens in reality when a campaign implies it's opponent is a terrorist. For a brief moment he came accross genuinely ashamed.

ponrauil · #**569** 10-15-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BeExcellent

Did anyone else find McCain's "he's a decent man. We just happen to disagree" moment very strange to watch?

It really seemed like it'd finally dawned on him what happens in reality when a campaign implies it's opponent is a terrorist. For a brief moment he came accross genuinely ashamed.

Didn't stop him from saying he'd whip Obama's "you know what" in the 3rd debate...

Ponrauil

bj54 · #**570** 10-16-2008, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BeExcellent

A 72 year old guy, with a history of skin cancer, and a massive growth on his left cheek in plain sight.

That's not a growth. He was beaten in a POW camp for 5 yrs. That's what Vietnam did to him.

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