2008 US Election

If nobody was enforcing the laws on murder, would those laws be irrelevant? Laws are laws. Don't like 'em, repeal 'em. If our highest laws don't have any meaning, then NO law has any meaning.

And less harm is done by just printing up or borrowing a trillion dollars onto our nearly $12 trillion dollar national debt? Also, I think it would be much better to do this the hard way once, instead of doing a rinse and repeat every few decades as the businesses, government, and consumers all practice poor judgement together.

We're also being expected to trust that the same officials who apparently DIDN'T see this coming now know exactly what to do to pull us out of it and prevent it from happening again? Wasn't that their job beforehand too? And didn't they kinda fail at it?

But not necessarily socialism. I start calling BHO a socialist or certain policies socialist, someone's gonna jump on my back and call me stupid for using the words incorrectly.

Hypothetically, if we disbanded public schools tomorrow and refunded everyone the cost per pupil, private school wouldn't be a luxury. Not only that, but there'd be competition to offer the best low-cost schooling. An entirely new field would open up.

And besides, schooling's mandatory, I don't see that changing, even if public schools are disbanded. The money could come with strings.

There's a difference between being liberal and being freedom-oriented: And that difference is being willing to look for solutions that don't involve the government, instead of blindly accepting that the government will do everything perfectly.

Adrian

She's hot?

That just doesn't follow.

That really worked for you guys with healthcare.

But the laws on murder are still being enforced. I guess the question I'm asking is if people aren't following the constitution, and not being held to account then what is the point of it?

What's another trillion? But it is surely better than letting the economy collapse, letting inflation go through the roof, and having employment go up massively. Letting the Country go into depression is not helping anyone. The people that caused the problem have still got their millions. What will stop it happening again anyway? With a free economy, people make short term decisions to create profit. This won't go away if you let the banks go out of business. It'll still be rinse and repeat without the rinse. So you get a whole lot dirtier.

Letting Lehmans go under was a mistake. Confidence is the key and that made it a whole lot worse.

The solution is to prosecute some of these people. You are then handing out punishment without punishing Main Street. I.e. you aren't cutting off your nose to spite your face.





I was goading you with that one on the back of the 'Obama is a Socialist' argument.

I think if you do that, then the lowest standard of school would go down dramatically with some people choosing to pay peanuts and get really crap education. Maybe you could state that the $10k has to be spent on schooling which might help resolve this so effectively you keep the money and give the pupil a choice of school, with all schools run privately.

Sounds good on paper - not sure how feasible it would be to implement. I guess you'd still need to have a body that monitors them if they were to cover the whole country's education so that would be an additional cost to the taxpayer (unless the schools pay but then you have a conflict of interest).

I'm not sure if you could have a flat rate of $10k either. The good ones are going to cost a lot more while you'll have bargain schools for those people trying to pay for their mortage? And the good teachers will always end up at the more highly paid schools. So you could actually widen the education gap.

Interesting thought though.

Now the rumor is that Obama plans on taxing people who make 150,000 or above because they need to redistrubute the wealth? I am really hoping this isn't true. I feared that as soon as he got into office that he would reduce the initial amount of 250,000.

Those making under $200,000 will get a tax cut.

Those making between $200,000 and $250,000 will stay the same.

Those making over $250,000 will have their taxes raised.


That's the official plan. You either believe it or you don't. Rumors are just what they are.


Ponrauil

wealth is already redistributed across the world including the US. the only reason people are getting worried about this is because the GOP spin machine has made it sound like some sort of underhanded marxist ploy to take everyones money.

Can anyone see this video ? I think its about trying to bring a federal lawsuit over Obama not being a US citzen because he was born in Kenya..... perhaps it wont play as Im in UK

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_v..._the_election/

Dawm

Born in Kenya from an american mother. Case closed.


Ponrauil