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Old 10-31-2008, 09:31 PM
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If you take that quote from Biden literally, only people making $150k dollars will get a tax cut - so hardly anyone will get a tax cut as Obama has said!
Imo taking it as literally as that is as dishonest as adding words he never said. He just gave one example of who qualifies as middle class in his and Obama's plan.



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Old 10-31-2008, 10:10 PM
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This is the problem though. People honestly have unrealistic expectations, and I am curious to see what people will say in four years.
That's what people thought of NJ's Corzine. He was going to be the savior. He's made a mess of Jersey and a terrible governor. He hasn't improved it at all. He tries raising our taxes every chance he gets,tolls etc. His ratings went down rather quickly. All talk and no action, too bad people didn't see through all his rheteric. obama will be the same.
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That's what people thought of NJ's Corzine. He was going to be the savior. He's made a mess of Jersey and a terrible governor. He hasn't improved it at all. He tries raising our taxes every chance he gets,tolls etc. His ratings went down rather quickly. All talk and no action, too bad people didn't see through all his rheteric. obama will be the same.
What makes you think Obama will be the same?
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:49 PM
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That's what people thought of NJ's Corzine. He was going to be the savior. He's made a mess of Jersey and a terrible governor. He hasn't improved it at all. He tries raising our taxes every chance he gets,tolls etc. His ratings went down rather quickly. All talk and no action, too bad people didn't see through all his rheteric. obama will be the same.
i'd at lkeast give the guy the benefit of the doubt because he's got a better chance of turning things around than bush mkIII
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:48 PM
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So how are you feeling at this stage? What's the best you dare hope for? How confident are you that will happen?
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:24 PM
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So how are you feeling at this stage? What's the best you dare hope for? How confident are you that will happen?
I'm not confidant at all. I dare hope that Obama wins but I'm not sure that will happen. I think that there are too many American that are racist at heart and simply will not actually vote for him whn push comes to shove.

No arguments here BTW - I am not saying that everyone who is for McCain is racist. I just think that racism is still pervasive in our society - though perhaps not as much as it used to be. I do think if Obama does get elected, and if he does a halfway decent job, it will go a long way to erasing some of the racism out there. Once people get used to seeing someone black in a position of power and authority - it might become more commonplace.
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So how are you feeling at this stage? What's the best you dare hope for? How confident are you that will happen?
I feel like neither of them are worthy candidates to deal witht eh current problems.. and I would still vote for Hilary..

Bruce has just been on at Ohio event for Obama...Bruce gave Obama a good plug... he sang but I couldnt hear it as some news reporter was talking all over him

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What makes you think Obama will be the same?
He's a democrat. Plain and simple, All democrats want Big Government. They want the government to pay for everything. Who is going to have to pay for all that? We are when they raise everyone's taxes. They want their hands in everyone's pockets. We work hard for our money and don't want to pay for every program imagineable. The more money we make, they want to take. I'm all for paying what is necessary,police, firemen, teachers,things that is truly needed. People can't expect to sit home and do nothing while the gov. pays for everything. It's not a racist issue. I don't care what color or gender they are. As long as they curb spending, taxing, wasting, all our hard earned money.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:16 AM
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He's a democrat. Plain and simple, All democrats want Big Government.
That's not a sweeping generalization at all.

Any proof that ALL democrats want this?
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How about their voting record? I'll admit the Republicans haven't been great in that respect, but they've been BETTER.

A vote for BHO at this point is a vote for a guy who's voiced support for reinstituting the draft, so I'm hoping John McCain can pull off a win. If he can't, I'm hoping BHO does a horrible job and turns America against his party. I'm hoping for EPIC failure from the left, like average person thinking "they shouldn't command a potato peeler much less a nation" failure.

Instead, I think BHO will win, and things will get slowly worse, and people will keep clamoring for more of the problem, instead of a solution.

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