2008 US Election

You are right Kathleen. Though, from personal experience, it's much easier to cheer when you won, then when you lost.

And McCain immediately stopped them, said "No no no!" which seemed really genuine. That was what impressed me most. It was like admitting that Obama was the better candidate, it was like saying "support him! he'll need it!". Maybe I am over-interpreting the whole gesture, but that was what I found to be most impressive. It's so difficult to be a good loser. Terribly difficult.

Yep, 27 of them. Mostly useless stuff like freedom of speech or the right to trial by jury. Oh, and the right to bear arms. Yes, it's not, I repeat, NOT in the constitution.

Ice

That makes me wonder how many Americans then, like Adrian who will happily die defending it's original form, have even read the damn thing.

I wonder why anyone would want to defend a document which has already been ammended 27 times Presumably it can be ammended again then, right?

At least it has been amended, as opposed to being left as it was, which would be leagues worse.

This same pile of BS keeps getting recycled election after election. It was, and remains, an internet hoax - http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp

The journal Intelligence (an actual scholarly journal - http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/jou...95/description) contains the following article which attempts to estimate state IQ scores rather than just make them up to suit one's agenda - http://www.people.vcu.edu/~mamcdani/Publications/McDaniel%20(2006)%20Estimating%20state%20IQ.pdf

Compare the estimates for traditional blue state California and traditional red state Wyoming in that article and in the chart above.

As I said, I never claimed it was real because I only found it on another forum - I was just posting it here. Presumably if there are real IQ statistics though it would be possible to compile a real one?

Let me be bitter and ignorant for one day. My normal self will return tomorrow! Hehe

There goes my lunchtime! LOL I'll give it a whirl. (Of course, I live in a "stupid" red state, so someone might want to check behind me. )

BTW, I do not know if that journal article is widely accepted or not. This isn't my area. All I did before posting it was verify that it was written by a professor at a widely-known university and published in what appears to be a scholarly journal -- one with a lengthy editorial board.

Ahhhh! All right! That's the Mouse I know