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Old 02-07-2003, 09:44 AM
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Mohammad is a prophet, as well as Jesus and a lot of others. It's just that for the Muslime Mohammad is most important and Jesus was just one prophet out of a lot for them.
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Old 02-07-2003, 09:50 AM
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How about Buddha and Allah ?? Buddha is supposed to existed as Holy Man in about 500 B.C ...But are they God?? Even some christians don't consider Jesus as God ..He is heavenly father's Son..

so, Buddha, Allah or Jesus.. do they exist??
As Christine said, Allah is just another name for God, I think it's Hebrew? Buddha I'm not sure, maybe someone else knows more about that. But Jesus definitely isn't God, and no Christian considers Jesus God. There's only one God in the Christian religion, and he reveals himself in the holy trinity - father, son and the holy ghost. But Jesus definitely isn't God.

I'd like to hear Naomi's thoughts on this, I think she could contribute to the discussion...
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:48 PM
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The Bible is a book of historical facts that occurred, there are lots of different versions, just like any other book of historical facts, we believe or we dont.

Does God exist is like saying what is love, you cant see it, so how do you prove it. You only know love is there because you can feel it.

God is love. Love is God.

Personally I believe.

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Old 02-07-2003, 01:53 PM
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The Bible is a book of historical facts that occurred, there are lots of different versions, just like any other book of historical facts, we believe or we dont.
I'm not sure I got your point exactly. The Bible IS historical facts (mostly the New Testament), and some myths, stories and legends (mostly the Old Testament). I don't think the question is do you believe it is historically accurate (it's been proven scientifically that most of it is), but do you believe that it's the word of god. Maybe that's what you were saying, but I wasn't sure... So, it's not like any other book of historical facts, imo.
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Old 02-07-2003, 03:27 PM
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The Bible is a book of historical facts that occurred, there are lots of different versions, just like any other book of historical facts, we believe or we dont.

Does God exist is like saying what is love, you cant see it, so how do you prove it. You only know love is there because you can feel it.

God is love. Love is God.

Personally I believe.

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Here is an example of someone being brainwashed. If the bible is a book of facts, then surely the whole theory of evolution must be wrong, despite all of the scientific facts supporting it. Dinosaurs? forget about them, the world isn't old enough for dinosaurs to have existed MILLIONS of years ago. All of these fossils that we find are in fact just pretty rocks. The bible is the truth.

I pity the person who just believes because someone else says it must be so. Most children growing up in England are subjected to all of this bullshit at school, but they have the sense to realise what a load of bollocks it really is.
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There are such things in this world as invisible purple pigs. These fly around and only I can see them. Their leader is Patrick the Purple Pig. Nobody else can see them. Just me.

Prove that these pigs don't exist.
Do you people still need proof ? You see, this proves that krb102 was right about me !
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hello !

you are really silly, you know ?
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I don't think there is a God, and "brainwashed" describes religious people prefectly.
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My point is that anyone can make up a ludicrous story that is impossible to disprove. Most of the time they think that because of this, then it must be true. They fail to realise that it is also impossible to prove.
I am a christian. I agree. There is no way to prove Gods existence. That's why it's called believing.

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The bible could have been written by anyone, and was probably added to and exaggerated over time.
There are a lot of old peaces found of the bible wich say exactly the same as the bible does now, only translated.
Further, I know it's not a fact, but for me, it's a bit of prove. There are things in the bible that nobody can explain. For me it's a prove that it has been written by God, through humanbeings. I know this sounds tupid, but I can explain it a lot more clearly in dutch, just don't know how to say it in english.

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Here is an example of someone being brainwashed. If the bible is a book of facts, then surely the whole theory of evolution must be wrong, despite all of the scientific facts supporting it. Dinosaurs? forget about them, the world isn't old enough for dinosaurs to have existed MILLIONS of years ago. All of these fossils that we find are in fact just pretty rocks. The bible is the truth.
The bible is the truth for me. But still I don't deny the existence of dinosaurs. It's obvious that there were such creations. Why would I deny that? I don't know about the Million years old thing. Cause how they calculate the age of the earth is through C-14. And when they use do that, they assume the C-14 level on earth has always been the same. Well, not the same, but I don't know how to say it in english again. But I think it wasn't. When the big flood came (biblical story) a lot must have change, so that probably why it seems like bible and science can't go along, but I think it can.

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I pity the person who just believes because someone else says it must be so. Most children growing up in England are subjected to all of this bullshit at school, but they have the sense to realise what a load of ******** it really is.
I think there aren't as much people as you think that just believe cause someone says so. Especially in these days, when everybody questions everything. Most of the christians have made there own choice to believe. If you believe cause your parrents told you so, it's not really believing.

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The bible is the truth for me. But still I don't deny the existence of dinosaurs. It's obvious that there were such creations. Why would I deny that? I don't know about the Million years old thing. Cause how they calculate the age of the earth is through C-14. And when they use do that, they assume the C-14 level on earth has always been the same. Well, not the same, but I don't know how to say it in english again. But I think it wasn't. When the big flood came (biblical story) a lot must have change, so that probably why it seems like bible and science can't go along, but I think it can.
So are you saying that the Adam and Eve nonsense is all wrong?
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IF there would be a God who is that good and takes care for us, why is there so much hunger, war and violence and a lot of other things that are going on.
I always think this is a stupid argument. If there is a God, why would he always be the one that causes everything. We are the people living on this earth, we are the people making love or war. We can make our own discissions. It's not like we are puppets on the strings of God. I don't believe in such a God. I believe in a God who takes care for me, but doens't lead every single step I make. I make my own discissions. Althought I can't even spell that word.
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