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Tree Diagrams - Love 'em!!

Can't share the same opinion as you about Pure maths though RichieW! I found the pure modules the hardest to relate to because it couldn't be applied to anything - it was just 'tricks with numbers'! Stats I hated cos it was all about probability, which I've never been able to do except, for some strange (if rather fortunate) reason, in the actual exam which had 3 of the 4 questions on it! Mechanics I could do when I thought about it but we had a rather boring teacher who only added colour to the lessons by throwing board-rubbers at us!
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eek! i dont care who the better mathematician is but please help me!! (erm i only have to do one stats module too but its fecking killing me!)

probability i just cant do i have never been able too, and i find normal distributons realy hard too. so here's the first stats question:

LIVE CLOSE LIVE SOME DISTANCE AWAY
management 6 14
administration 25 10
production 45 25

An employee is chosen at random

Find the probability that this employee

a) is an administrator (i can do this one)

b) lives close to the company, given that the employee is a manager

(I CANT DO THIS ONE!!!!! someone please explain how i do these types of P(A|B) ones pleeaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)


of the managers , 90% are married, as are 60% of the administration and 80% of the production employees.

c) construct a tree diagram containing all the probabilities-(can do this one)

d) find the probability that the employee chosen at random is married (can do this one)

an employee is selected at random and found to be married

e) find the probability that this employee is in production (I CANT DO THIS ONE)


please dont larf cause im thick

b)
A = the employee lives close to the company
B = the employee is a manager

P(A/B) = P(A AND B) / P(B)

P(A AND B) = 6/125
P(B) = 20/125

So, P(A/B) = 6/20 = 30%

If you don't want to use P(A/B) you can just say
that the managers are 20 and only 6 of them live
close, so 6/20 managers live close to the company.

e)
A = the employee is in production
B = the employee is married

P(A AND B) = 0.8*70 / 125
P(B) = (0.9*20 + 0.6*35 + 0.8*70) / 125

P(A/B) = 0.8*70 / (0.9*20 + 0.6*35 + 0.8*70) = ...


If you have any problems with the above let me know
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THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BOTH OF YOU!!

blood on blood- you explained it really really well i can understand and follow it through!! thank you! the answer to the last bit is 0.589 (3 sf) thank you!

thank you rich for explaining the other stuff! i think i get it now. i can do some of the qs i couldnt do before which is well good!

thank you sooooooo much. really appreciate the fact that you tool the time. THANK YOU!!
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Good luck. try to do better than I did in maths.
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i just failed my stats exam, will have to redo it in october the stuff panama has to do i have no problems with, but we're a bit further and its killing me
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can anyone help me some more please?

ERM, anyone have a normal distribution table handy?

dont worry if you cant cause like its not worth it really. will fail it anyway

here it is:

1) the thickness of some sheets of wood follows a normal distribution with mean x and standard deviation y. 96% of the sheets will go through an 8mm gauge while only 1.7% will go through a 7mm gauge. find x and y.

thanks to those who have a go!!! i get stuck after a while
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im doing it just to AS level but i dont expect to pass. ive done the M1 exam and sucked at it (still P1 and S1 to do) so i cant really help.
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can anyone help me some more please?

ERM, anyone have a normal distribution table handy?

dont worry if you cant cause like its not worth it really. will fail it anyway

here it is:

1) the thickness of some sheets of wood follows a normal distribution with mean x and standard deviation y. 96% of the sheets will go through an 8mm gauge while only 1.7% will go through a 7mm gauge. find x and y.

thanks to those who have a go!!! i get stuck after a while

I am not 100% sure ‘cause I haven’t worked with stats for some time now, but anyway, here is what I thought:

P(V <= 8 10-3) = 0.96
P(V <= 7 10-3) = 0.017
Where V is our random variable (is that how you call it?) which represents the thickness of the sheets of wood.

P(V <= 0.00 = P((V – x) / y <= (0.008 – x) / y) = F((0.008 – x) / y) = 0.96

From the normal distribution table we have that F(1.75) = 0.96

So, (0.008 – x) / y = 1.75

P(V <= 0.007) = P((V – x) / y <= (0.007 – x) / y) = F((0.007 – x) / y) = 0.017

The normal distribution table doesn’t have values as low as 0.017 so we do the following trick:

F((0.007 – x) / y) = 0.017 = 1 – 0.983
So, 1 - F((0.007 – x) / y) = 0.983

We know that F(-z) = 1 – F(z), hence

F((x - 0.007) / y) = 0.983

From the normal distribution table we have that F(2.12) = 0.96

So, (x - 0.007) / y = 2.12

All you have to do now is to solve the 2 * 2 system and find x, y.

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thank you but i dont understand . i get upto the part where you do the 'little trick' and then it gets fuzzy

thank you for trying to help me out but i just dont get it or the right answers. thank you thank you but i just cant do it

ill try to scan in my working but really its no use.

thank you once again. you've been a really big help. thank you
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