Abortion

This is what the bible say about abortion:

Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life.

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23

The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6

Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16

God sometimes approves of killing fetuses.

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17
(Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.)

Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14

Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16

Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16

God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents.

Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14

God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives.

The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28

God's law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant women.

Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- Genesis 38:24


So is that really where you want to be drawing your moral philosophies regarding this issue?

no its not even near sure and a lot more of the books have ben contributed to St Paul than that. he has been creditied with writing more than half the books. there is only 4 bibles and the book of revelations that were not writtian by Paul and maybe on r 2 others im not exactly clear.

no again that is athemism attacking religion saying the teaching ahve been changed because they cant execpt the fac tthat after more than 2000 years the book is still relevent to days society. Humans do have the right to interpet the bible given to them by Jesus (God) while he was on earth. Peter you are the rock on which i build my church, anything you loose on earth while be loose in heaven, whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in heaven (not exactly word for word.) Peter was the first Pope established the Catholic Church which carries on the tradition the apostles. Each pope has the same power as Peter did.

they dont have to change it (it wasnt changed in the middle ages either again as iv said that is a noraml anti-religion view that has no evidence of proof, there is also the story of pope who was going to change the law on abortion, had his speech ready but before he could deliever it he dropped dead.) the bible is there and becuase it says the unborn child has rights thats why you dont believe in it and as i stated it is the basis of our argument. Who are we tho to decied whos right and who is wrong? you? me?


thats is a very very stupid and uneducated thing to come out with. How can the bible have done evil!! maybe your thinking of Bad men doing things in the name of religion there is a hell of a big difference! there as been bad Popes as well and that i will never deny! the bible does not cause evil but people like to pretend it did!

i wont quote the full thing but you havnt quoted one passage from the new testament! therefore not chrisitan law

So you reject the word of God (it is positively asserted by all three monotheistic religions that have their roots in the OT that it is the word of God despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary) in favour of what was written by groups of men in different tribes over the course of a couple of centuries who lived decades and centuries after the death of JC?

last book of the bible was writtien 60 years after the death of jesus. Not wirttien by tribes but by the apostles of jesus (who himself more than once dissmissed laws of the old testament. and since he is god then does he not give authority over the OT after all wasnt the people who followed the OT that put him to death? the Nt is the chirstian laws

Then why is the OT included in THE Christian book? So that you can skip it?

it is there because it shows the effect God has on the world since it started. it is not a nessicary part of. In each Catholic school here in Ireland we are all given a small bible from the church and it does not have the OT in it

Completely wrong. The New Testament is no doubt a vast improvement over the horrificness of the OT precisely because those who wrote it (including those who wrote JC's lines) were not content to derive their morals from the OT, not to mention the fact that St. Paul wished to bring the idea of the Judeo God to the gentiles and thus had to seriously tone down the monstrous evil of Yaweh. However Jesus most certainly did endorse EVERYTHING that was written in the Old Testament. This is clearly written in the NT.

The books of the new testament while written decades after Jesus' death were constantly updated and "improved" upon over the next few centuries.

Oh I see. Isn't the OT supposed to have more divine origins than the NT?

they may have but im not up on my bible knoweldge lol as i have said before im not a religious nut! lol im going on what i have heard in my RE classes lol