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Old 11-23-2006, 06:21 PM
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im against abortion for anything other than its a threat to the mothers life.

Women say is our body so we get to decided but the fact is to me that there is another life growing inside you that has just an equal right to live. People on here will aruge that a couple of cells dont count as life but isnt that not how all life started on this planet and hell everything has got to start somewhere.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:31 PM
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That is correct - as far as it goes. But the facts are that (in this country at least) the statistics suck. Any female deciding on her future would be well advised to check out those statistics before having several children that she is not able to support. Statistics show that the men just don't support the children in a divorce unless forced to by court order. This may be a generalization (and it is) but the high rate of single parent families show that a women should be prepared to support any children she should have.
Figures show that there is also a lot of single parent familys supported by men. I will not say that there is near the same number of women but its a very high minority and figures will back that up. Sort out the way people view marriage and you wont get so many single parent familys. You can get divorced for the stupidest of reasons in the US (the way you squeeze your toothpaste tude) and people go in awww sure ill get married for a few years and then get married to someone else! blame marriage in the U.S. not the men
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:14 PM
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Women say is our body so we get to decided but the fact is to me that there is another life growing inside you that has just an equal right to live. People on here will aruge that a couple of cells dont count as life but isnt that not how all life started on this planet and hell everything has got to start somewhere.
Religious brainwash. Next you'll start with "every sperm is sacred"-dogma.

Try to forget what you've been taught and think for yourself.

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Old 11-23-2006, 10:18 PM
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Religious brainwash. Next you'll start with "every sperm is sacred"-dogma.

Try to forget what you've been taught and think for yourself.

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is explain to me why that is relgious?? stop ur its not cool to be religious bullshit!

why say life started in the sea millions of years ago as a lump as cells but now it doesnt qualify as life? so tell when did life begin? you just seem like the kinda of person who will say anything anti-religious but in fact u havent a clue about anything to do with religion. tho im sure ull claim that your were brought up this that and the other.


and anyway even if someone is religious why the hell does that make there view wrong? or why does it make your view any more valid?

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Old 11-23-2006, 10:29 PM
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is explain to me why that is relgious?? stop ur its not cool to be religious bullshit!

why say life started in the sea millions of years ago as a lump as cells but now it doesnt qualify as life? so tell when did life begin?


and anyway even if someone is religious why the hell does that make there view wrong? or why does it make your view any more valid?
It's religious because that's what religion teaches. Suppose that I'm only a "little bit pregnant" and I trip and fall down the stairs and the pregnancy is terminated. Am I a murderer? Should I stop driving becasue I might get in an accident and kill the baby? In that case I should not drive my children around either.

How about that primeval soup in the sea - millions of years ago. Suppose there was a meteor storm - that might have murdered millions of pre-humans. People can argue forever about when "life" begins. As far as I'm concerned it is when that fetus can survive outside my body on its own. At that point it is sacred and should be protected with everything there is. Before that - as I've said - my body - my decision.

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Old 11-23-2006, 10:37 PM
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It's religious because that's what religion teaches. Suppose that I'm only a "little bit pregnant" and I trip and fall down the stairs and the pregnancy is terminated. Am I a murderer? Should I stop driving becasue I might get in an accident and kill the baby? In that case I should not drive my children around either.
i have never heard the RCC say anything close to the lines your saying! its a problem on this board when it comes to religious ideas. Very few of you know what religion teaches but all assume that they have these big stupid rules that everyone must live by.

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How about that primeval soup in the sea - millions of years ago. Suppose there was a meteor storm - that might have murdered millions of pre-humans. People can argue forever about when "life" begins. As far as I'm concerned it is when that fetus can survive outside my body on its own. At that point it is sacred and should be protected with everything there is. Before that - as I've said - my body - my decision.
and im not saying your ideas wrong, i said at the start of this thread i wasnt going to bring religion into it and it was all my own ideas but Ice just fecked me off. and i think you have very vaild points as well. and i agree with you on some poiunts you make. except for the one you make that men shouldnt have a say.
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i have never heard the RCC say anything close to the lines your saying! its a problem on this board when it comes to religious ideas. Very few of you know what religion teaches but all assume that they have these big stupid rules that everyone must live by.
get serious thats the whole point of organised religion, to govern the way people live their lives.
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get serious thats the whole point of organised religion, to govern the way people live their lives.
is it? hmmm well tell you what go and actually read up abouyt what they said and do then come back to me! if they wanted to govern peoples lives would thye not be pushing for more political posts. hopw many priests do you know are going for office in any country? just a thought

its another example of people coming out with wild sataments about religion when they really dont know what there on about.

im not even close to being over religious all i go on is faith but i dont go making wild unsupported statments about thing i have no clue about.

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is it? hmmm well tell you what go and actually read up abouyt what they said and do then come back to me! if they wanted to govern peoples lives would thye not be pushing for more political posts. hopw many priests do you know are going for office in any country? just a thought
i dont believe that anyone could be that naive. ill assume you are joking. why dont you go and watch panorma from a few months ago about all those catholic paedophile priests being protected by the vatican. being moved around area to area allowed to abuse more and more children. i will take no lessons on anything from an organisation that activley supports paedophilia.
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:01 PM
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i dont believe that anyone could be that naive. ill assume you are joking. why dont you go and watch panorma from a few months ago about all those catholic paedophile priests being protected by the vatican. being moved around area to area allowed to abuse more and more children. i will take no lessons on anything from an organisation that activley supports paedophilia.
sure if panorma says it its got to be true.!! and yes of course they activley seek to support paedophilia. ill not mention they many things that the vatican has done in the past 2 months to ry and stop things like that happeniing. u havnt because i dont think you would want to talk about things that show the religion in a positive light! thats just unnatural. im i saying they havnt been gulity of things liek that no! i know they have but thats just the human side of the church! everyone makes mistakes!

if you want to say things liek that why go to a hospital they will just either kill you nad steal your bobdy parts and not tell anyone, dont go to school sure there just as bad when it comes to abusing children.

figures show that the priests that did things like that are amount to less than 1% of the total preisthood. it doesnt excuse the vatican for what they done but im sure its not going to blind you to all the good they have done either

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