Abortion

and that's could be dangerous... it shouldn't become a formality. But with allowing the abortion by law I think it's more controlled. There's more information available on the subject and more expertise. With all the rules & stuff it's not *that* easy to visit the doctor every once in a while for yet another abortion.

Now, as on many things, I have an incredibly contraversial view on abortion- so don't kill me!

I believe that abortion is acceptable in almost all circumstances. The only case I object to is in some countries (which I will not mention) where the child rate is controlled to try and crack over-crowding problems, if a woman falls pregnant twice, her baby may be aborted against her and her husband's wishes; that I do not like.


I Believe that human life begins at birth. Not at conception, not at 12 weeks, not when the heart starts beating, but at birth. I believe that when the baby loses complete dependancy upon its mother, and is brought into the world, then it begins its life. This is perhaps the most contraversial bit of my viewpoint, but hey; it is what it is.

I believe that any parent who has become pregnant accidentally ( accidentally here means in the most irresponsible way), i.e. a careless teenage mother, is not responsible enough for a child. It's like the saying:

"No man is worth your tears, except the one who will never make you cry."

Those irresponsible enough to get a girl into trouble, or to get themselves pregnant, is not ready for a baby.

Also- if parents do not want a child, then I support that too. They may be financially sound, they may be well suited to a family, but sometimes, accidents (in a non-irresponsible way) do happen. Condoms split, people forget their pills, and babies have been born holding coils.This is true now, but one of my family took her pill 10 minutes later than usual without knowing i (wrong clock) and her husband was wearing a condom, and as the worst of bad luck would have it, the condom split and the pill didn't work- so she had an abortion.

I also think that if a child with a disability as a reasonable excuse. Now before you shoot me down as a disablist murderer, I as a person could not care for another entirely dependant human being. If I had a child that was going to be born with a severe disability, and I was able to find this out, I would be willing to have an abortion- because I know as a person I would not have the capabilities to take care of it. Also, if you already have family, the effect of bringing a dependant individual into the family environment must be considered.

And of course, I have the same view as many people on a pregnancy that is the result of rape or if the mother is in danger if she goes to term.


I think that a lot of this has to do with the fact that I am a staunch atheist, having decided there was no God at age 4 (always been very politically minded, even as a kid!) But please don't flame me. I've argued my case, and feel free to argue back, but if you're going to flame me, flame me for something I can't justify.

Like the fact I'm a fox hunter-Bring it on, foxlovers!

Love
Laura


P.S. I really shouldn't reply to political, religious, ethical or moral posts- I tend to stir things up...

I agree with all your posts except the fox hunting...

if you, like your picture are a fox, how would you like it if I hunted you?

im not suggesting anyone's views ont his are religion based in any way at all but it just seems that abortion and religion go hand in hand espescially when discussing the morality of it.

to whoever said that my circular argument wasnt the answer. im not saying it is the answer, but the fact of the matter is that most religion espescially Catholicism uses circular arguments to force thier version of morality onto people.

This is MY OPINION

To me human life begins when the sperm enters the egg and a child starts to form, it may only be a tiny little spot but its a baby to me.

I think abortion is murder. I could never and will never ever have an abortion, not even if my child has a disability, not even if the time isnt right, not even if my child is a result of rape. I would never have an abortion.

I know I was never in any of those situtaions and I hope never to be in any. But if I was I know I would keep my baby.

I dont know anyone that has had an abortion. To be honest Im not sure how I would react if someone I knew did have one. I would try to be supportive but I wouldnt understand why they had done it.

I do think it is the mothers choice. I also think she will regret everyday for the rest of her life.

I am totally against fox hunting. I depise people who go out intenionally to hurt and murder an animal.

As I said above that is my opinion.

I don't have to say a word, because Sambora_Laura said it all. I agree with her 150%!!!

Well that aint just your opinion, i agree with you completely. Abortion is murder it is that damm simple. There should be a new law put in place that any spineless sob (exept rape and abuse) should be banned from havin children if they decide to have a abortion. Ive read stories about abortions gone wrong and they cant have children again hah thats what they deserve!. And if there is such a place as heaven and hell i hope they rot in hell!. And as for people who attack animals im not gonna start. One thing to say there SCUM taking any life is wrong. If i saw a human shoot a animal id take his f u c k ing gun and shoot him in the balls! and leave him there to bleed to death.

That's interesting. I like this thread.

I found this interesting. Why is that exactly?

For me personally life begins from day 1 of birth... I am 19 1/2 years old; not 20 1/4... but I know what you are saying since the baby is "alive" before it is born... it moves, feeds, develops...

I know what you are saying there...

but am I not in part also responsible for that being a meat-eater and not a vegetarian?

You see thats where i differ to other animal activists, where there all vegies where as i cant stand vegtables and have never eaten them. My view is that if you aint gonna eat meat (that sounds so dodgy ) then some fat sob is gonna eat twice as much. What differnce does it make weather you eat (trying to think of another word) animals its not gonna change s h i t theres still the other 5.5 billion who are.