Afghan woman stoned to death for adultery

ugly_queen_from_mars · #21 04-24-2005, 08:51 PM

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Also, what baffles me is the fact that you are more outraged by this kid being handcuffed rather than her behavior.

Since when is kicking and hitting teachers acceptable? It is quite scary if you ask me. Especially being a teacher.

of course i am outraged by the fact that the police handcuffed a kid in its school! also by the fact that the teachers thought that was the best thing to do! if you don't know how to handle kids (disturbed kids included) don't become a teacher.
i don't think she knew what she was doing, i'm repeating, she's only 5!
here we have, let's say, 10 adults and 1 little girl. who should be charged for their actions first? the kid who's only 5 and had a problem or the others for treating her that way?
i'd be more afraid if were a teacher and my teenager student took a gun and shot people in the school and not by a five year old who is screaming and kicking.

spunkywho · #22 04-24-2005, 08:55 PM

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Also, what baffles me is the fact that you are more outraged by this kid being handcuffed rather than her behavior.

Since when is kicking and hitting teachers acceptable? It is quite scary if you ask me. Especially being a teacher.

[color=violet]of course i am outraged by the fact that the police handcuffed a kid in its school!

I have not seen the tape, but I really don't understand why the handcuffing is such a big deal? It wasn't that she was kicked to the floor face down and handcuffed, was she?

Seriously, some kids need major negative feedback and hitting is not an option.]

ugly_queen_from_mars · #23 04-24-2005, 08:58 PM

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also the police shouldn't have handcuffed her. she's a baby! she's not 15 or 16...

She wasn't really acting like your typical 5 year old was she?

neither the method of handcuffing a problematic (i don't know if she is problematic cause i've seen many kids crying, sceraming and kicking) kid was the typical method of handling situations like that.

ugly_queen_from_mars · #24 04-24-2005, 09:04 PM

i wonder what you would do if that was your kid.
and i apologise for kinda ruining the first topic.

spunkywho · #25 04-24-2005, 09:07 PM

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i wonder what you would do if that was your kid.
and i apologise for kinda ruining the first topic.

my kid would never act like that. But honestly, if he was acting like an idiot he should learn that he'll be treated like one. 5 is not too early to start learning that, while most parents cater to your every need, teachers and other people in your life do not need to.

too many extremely spoilt snots around as it is.

I still don't understand what would have been better than to call the cops (well call the parents of course, but seems like that was not an option). I would be much more outraged if the teachers tried to physically restrain the child.

ugly_queen_from_mars · #26 04-24-2005, 09:34 PM

i think that if kids at their five are being treated like criminals by their teachers and the police instead of being shown the right way, they will probably have to face more personality disorders while growing up.
i found an article some minutes ago
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCoole...tory?id=593677

spunkywho · #27 04-24-2005, 10:05 PM

you don't suppose that that sort of attitude "She's never going back to that school," Akins said. "They set my baby up." has a lot to do with the little girls behaviors?

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i think that if kids at their five are being treated like criminals by their teachers and the police instead of being shown the right way, they will probably have to face more personality disorders while growing up.

I don't think that kid was being treated like a criminal and I doubt she'll develop a personality disorder over it either. Unfortunately, she is a spoilt brat and will thus face many many problems over her lifetime.

Again, you mention that the girl should have been shown the 'right way' - what exactly would the 'right way' have been in that instance?

Tashjbj · #28 04-24-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce

Also, what baffles me is the fact that you are more outraged by this kid being handcuffed rather than her behavior.

Since when is kicking and hitting teachers acceptable? It is quite scary if you ask me. Especially being a teacher.

of course i am outraged by the fact that the police handcuffed a kid in its school! also by the fact that the teachers thought that was the best thing to do! if you don't know how to handle kids (disturbed kids included) don't become a teacher.
i don't think she knew what she was doing, i'm repeating, she's only 5!
here we have, let's say, 10 adults and 1 little girl. who should be charged for their actions first? the kid who's only 5 and had a problem or the others for treating her that way?
i'd be more afraid if were a teacher and my teenager student took a gun and shot people in the school and not by a five year old who is screaming and kicking.

I must say that I am more outraged at this child's behaviour! I think it is a scary thought that a child of that age can run amock like that and that no one can control her.. says enough of the parenting skills that she receives at home as well. I also think that it is very easy to just judge the teachers, a lot of the time they are not allowed to use force on pupils and maybe after this child acting up so many times the police was the last resort...

Mousebounce · #29 04-24-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce

Also, what baffles me is the fact that you are more outraged by this kid being handcuffed rather than her behavior.

Since when is kicking and hitting teachers acceptable? It is quite scary if you ask me. Especially being a teacher.

of course i am outraged by the fact that the police handcuffed a kid in its school! also by the fact that the teachers thought that was the best thing to do! if you don't know how to handle kids (disturbed kids included) don't become a teacher.
i don't think she knew what she was doing, i'm repeating, she's only 5!
here we have, let's say, 10 adults and 1 little girl. who should be charged for their actions first? the kid who's only 5 and had a problem or the others for treating her that way?
i'd be more afraid if were a teacher and my teenager student took a gun and shot people in the school and not by a five year old who is screaming and kicking.

Screaming and kicking at a person, especially a teacher is not acceptable no matter how you look at it. She didn't know what she was doing? How many kids do you know that physically punch and kick their teachers? I taught 3 year olds that knew better. It doesn't matter if the kid is 5 or 15. If you really think that this little girl had no clue what she was doing, then you obviously haven't had much experience with children. That is no way to act, and it is not normal. How come you are not equally outraged by this child's behavior? I am assuming that you think it is okay for a child to physically abuse and adult along with trashing an office?

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i don't know if she is problematic cause i've seen many kids crying, sceraming and kicking

You aren't grasping what actually happened. She was kicking and punching a teacher along with trashing an office. This wasn't a normal tantrum. Well at least it is not the norm for the kids that I know.

I am with Spunky. What was the right thing to do?

Arash · #30 04-24-2005, 11:14 PM

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thats one of the 10,000 an more reasons to prove that Islam is the most horrible & disgusting thing that ever happened to humanity.

I don't know much about Islam but I'd say it's the interpreters of the religion that make it so awful and take it to this. Religion should be about morals leaving each person to interpret it the way they see fit but religion never ever should be a law. Never.

actually thats how islam is, it has a stupid law for every ****ing thing you might do in your life. you dont have any freedom of choice, you just have to do what they say to do or you will be killed.

Afghan woman stoned to death for adultery

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