thats all well and good but the point i'm bringing up is that really skinny people get attacked for being bad role models whereas its somehow acceptable to be massivly overweight.

i mean as an example the 2 fat birds on pop idol r getting massive support for nothing other than them being big and goign against usual pop ideals.

they don't have a chance of winning due to A: they're not great singers and there's very few of the there that are and B: u can't market someone huge as a pop product, i know, u know and simon cowell and BMG certainly know it and the only reason they're in the finals is to keep the moaners at bay.

but still people are phoning in in droves because they're big girls and are somehow deserving of our support for nothing other than that