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Ralph Nader to run for president

Consumer advocate will run as an independent candidate
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Updated: 2:54 p.m. ET Feb. 22, 2004WASHINGTON - Consumer advocate Ralph Nader announced on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday he will run again for the presidency, declaring that Washington has become “corporate occupied territory” and arguing there is too little difference between the Democratic and Republican parties.

“This country has more problems and injustices than it deserves,” Nader said, bemoaning a “democracy gap.” Nader, who turns 70 this week, said he wants to “challenge this two-party duopoly.”

“There’s too much power and wealth in too few hands,” he said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“Washington is now corporate occupied territory,” Nader said. “There is now a for-sale sign on most agencies and departments. ... Basically, it’s question of both parties flunking.”

He decided against running under the banner of the Green Party. Nader’s candidacy four years ago has been blamed by many Democrats for costing Al Gore the election against Bush.

How will it affect election?
Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe, who has personally urged Nader not to run, said Nader would not have the same impact this time.

“I can tell you Green Party members are all coming into the (Democratic) party saying they want to help us because they know the stakes are so big this time,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“It will be much more difficult for him,” McAuliffe said.

Both Democratic presidential contenders, front-runner John Kerry and rival John Edwards, told reporters they were not worried that a Nader candidacy would hurt them if they face Bush in November.

"I think my campaign is speaking to a lot of the issues Ralph Nader is concerned about," Kerry said.

Edwards said "it will not impact my campaign" because he could attract many of the voters who might otherwise go to Nader.

Republicans largely have declined to comment on any benefits a Nader candidacy would have for Bush.

“If Ralph Nader runs, President Bush is going to be re-elected and if Ralph Nader doesn’t run, President Bush is going to be re-elected,” Republican National Committee chairman Ed Gillespie said on CBS's “Face the Nation.”

At a Sunday gathering of governors in Washington, former RNC chairman Haley Barbour, now governor of Mississippi said: “It will make less difference than the Democrats fear, but I know they’re very nervous about it.”

‘A spoiler is a contemptuous term’
Asked if he was getting into the race to be a spoiler, Nader replied: “A spoiler is a contemptuous term, as if anybody who dares to challenge the two party system .. is a spoiler, and we’ve got to fight that..”

“Let me say, this is going to be difficult,” said Nader, who planned a round of interviews after his announcement. But he also said, “This is not a democracy that can be controlled by two parties in the grip of corporate interests.”


Third party candidacies have been a greater part of presidential politics in recent years; businessman Ross Perot twice ran for president, winning 19 percent of the vote in 1992.

“It’s his personal vanity because he has no movement. Nobody’s backing him,” New Mexico Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson said.

As the Green Party’s nominee in 2000, Nader appeared on the ballot in 43 states and Washington, D.C., garnering only 2.7 percent of the vote. But in Florida and New Hampshire, Bush won such narrow victories that had Gore received the bulk of Nader’s votes in those states, he would have won the general election.
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Why doesn't this guy just hang it up? The only thing he will do is help GW win the election.
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Why doesn't this guy just hang it up? The only thing he will do is help GW win the election.
I agree... It's a bit late to run for President I think... He only has a few Primaries to help him out.

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Why doesn't this guy just hang it up? The only thing he will do is help GW win the election.
Seeing as Kerry will be the one running against GW, I don't know if that will be a bad thing.
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Why doesn't this guy just hang it up? The only thing he will do is help GW win the election.
Seeing as Kerry will be the one running against GW, I don't know if that will be a bad thing.
What is it exactly that you have against Kerry, Mouse? It's a bit early to form a sound judgement.
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Why doesn't this guy just hang it up? The only thing he will do is help GW win the election.
Seeing as Kerry will be the one running against GW, I don't know if that will be a bad thing.
What is it exactly that you have against Kerry, Mouse? It's a bit early to form a sound judgement.
Actually, I have been doing quite a bit of research into some of Kerry's "policies." While Bush is too far to the right for my liking, Kerry is way too far over to the left. I haven't made a final decision yet, which will of course happen once the race starts, but I don't think either are great candidates. I will have to choose the lesser of two evils.
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Not Nader agian....
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Well, from what I hear, all Nader does is take votes away from the democrats. That's always good.

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Well, from what I hear, all Nader does is take votes away from the democrats. That's always good.

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So...you're a closet Bush supporter? He's the only republican candidate and I doubt Nader's 2% will get him to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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Why does it seems like no American (at least on this board) even dares to consider voting for someone else then Democrat or Republican?
Are all other candidates policies not acceptable?

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