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Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
the thing is that even if there IS some human-esque creator we can actually comprehend, there's absolutely nothing to support that this guy is the god we know in the bible i.e. giver of love, miracles, dad of jesus etc....
it's entirely feasible that there is a creator that has no bearing on anything since its work is essentially done th emoment the universe starts.
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There is the evidence in the new testement, the words of Jesus, the messages he leftr, thats were we get the support for the christian God.
But of course u may be right in that opinion of God, i disagree with it, but it is of course very possible. I believe Dawkins stated that this view of God is a much stronger argument that he first thought.
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Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson
No, it probably didn't happen out of nowhere -cause and effect, afterall. But, the problem with believing in a God is that you are stuck again with cause and effect - what created God? If it was an even bigger, more powerful being then what created it? And so on and so forth.
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very true, Who created God?? the idea is of course mind blowing, to simply say God always existed is outside the laws of science, but for me, since he created those laws, it is very possible for him to be outside them. but yes so on so forth the argument could go on and on and on. The Father Coyle and Dawkins interview posted a few threads back is quite interesting, i think it tackles that debate. (i think)
Yes, life can appear - it has been done in a lab, so it's obviously feasible that it could happen spontaneously somewhere too. It wouldn't have just appeared from nowhere - there would have been some kind of cell mutation and probably something acting as a catalyst to that. Once there was a single cell organism then it would have started down the path of evolution.[/QUOTE]
no, life just doesnt start, it isnt the case of a jolt of lightening and all of a sudden life began. Yes evolution takes over when life begins. all of a sudden life just came one day? just started, if they science knew the answer on how to start life from nothing then the possiblity would be endless, humans in essence would become "Gods" themsleves but we dont.