Anti-war crap - My last say on the topic

It's not about 'used to', it's about believing! These people believe
in a single leader...well they probably believe that the country
should be led by a king. But you will NEVER establish a democracy
there as we know it. And it shouldn't be your aim to do so. Why?
Because our system is so superior? From our point of view it is.
But there are other views in this world u know.

And Iraq is in NO way a threat to the US or anyone else. They
wish they were, but they're not. North-Korea is a threat though,
why not focus on that? I'll tell u why: first of all, N-K is actually
capable of striking back, something you won't have to expect
from Iraq and second: N-K isn't that wanted for their oil.

I wanna see some real evidence that Iraq is a threat. A real threat.
And real evidence. Not some satellite pic that could be virtually
anything...and not a missile that can go 10km further than is
permitted. My god, if that were a reason to attack u sure
have poor evidence.

US: share your intelligence with the UN inspectors, if there
even is credible evidence AT ALL.

And BTW: terrorists are created by war, not destroyed...
By each terrorist u kill, u create 3 new ones...

Use ur money in a useful way: invest in the welfare
of developing countries. That'll stop people from
following idiots like Bin Laden in all of their desperation.

Peace!

-Kris

heh, thats what they thought last time...until they found the supergun he had been building for years

Kris, you do come up with some very good points. I truely believe we know **** all about the situation as it stands.... I think the US probably have a pretty good idea at what Saddam has, but I think they'll only use this evidence at the right time for them. This isn't a new issue, it's just something is being done about it now.

In Britain we believed in our monach untill things changed, and that was a bloody war!

You can get a change of government if there is a need for one, and if Saddam is overthrown then there will be. That's not to say it would be democratic, I'd be astonished if it was. Like I said, I don't think the US could care less whether it's a democracy or not, whether the people their have the right to vote, to determine how they're governed, so long as whoever is in charge complys with what the US want to do. Let's fact it, it's about protecting ourselves, not ridding Iraq of a tyran, however much the politicians like the think they have the morral ground in this way! If they do what the US want, then the US will have what it wants.

It's dificult in a society where people's rights, in particular right to be equal to look at society's that aren't, and not see a moral problem. Look at South Africa 20 years ago. It tortured "black" people, had a society where there was a deffinate division between the white's, and blacks, where one group were second class citizens. I don't think anybody would look at this and think it was right, it was apauling, and it's hard to say, "well, they can rule their county how they like, who I'm I to say they have to look after human rights". We see human rights as the right to be equal, the right not to be descriminated against, and this is directly associated with the vote. If you vote, then you're controling who is representing you, you have as much say in this as anybody else. If you can't vote, or sectors can't vote, or one persons vote is worth more than somebody elses, then the ruler doesn't reflect the people, and therefore isn't answerable to them. I think that's why we look at trying to push the idea of democracy, because we want people to enjoy the same freedoms we have, freedoms which under their system they can't have.

Yes, the stuff over N-K was a little iffy. However, like you said, they picked Iraq because they think they'll win. I'ts likely to be a short war. This means they can come back in glory...."we're winning the war against terrorism". They're doing something, and their succeding at it, and it will win support, or at least I guess it will. The even more worying thing is, America seem to be looking at this along the lines of the domino theory. After Iraq it will be somebody else, then somebody else. If this war goes ahead (which seems almost inevitable now) then it's difficult to see how, or where it's going to stop.

speaking for all of us are we??

methinks not boyo!

I"m talking in terms of the past tense.... i.e Oliver Cromwell (couldn't give a date, I know virtually nothing about this period)

The bloody war being the civil war.

The point being, that every govenment changed at some point, otherwise no country would be democratic!