Are you a perv?

i know in extreme cases people can get screwed up by porn (no pun intended) but really its only sex aint it? i dont really find things offensive unless people are given no choice in other words they are forced to do porn or prostitution (or whatever) . i would find that very offensive but if someone decides they wanna do porn then thats their choice. i really dont think its about treating woman like objects , if you believe that it is degrading in general , then i would say that its degrading for the men just the same. (im not aiming that at you or anyone else its just my opinion )
i dont think that it is degrading i really dont. if i had a friend that did porn it wouldnt bother me at all because i dont see how its any different from another job . if someone chooses to do it why not.

I don't think I understood what you were trying to say. What sort of attitude? The wanting to have sex attitude?


Porn is not offensive to women - feminist or not. If anything a true feminist would embrace porn and watch it herself - after all, feminism is about equality of men and womeon. Porn does not objectify women - unless you call having sex an objectification.

The only people offended are people that are quite insecure about their sexuality and self worth.

I have a friend who kicked her live-in boyfriend to the curb for watching porn - I'll never understand that, but I do know that she is extremely insecure in relationships and interprets him watching porn as him not finding her attractive enough. Shame, cause he was the only nice guy she had dated in years....


To say that a married man or woman shouldn't 'have to' watch that stuff anymore, indicates that the whole porn thing is taken completely wrong. To watch porn does not mean that one doesn't find their partner attractive or sexy enough.

I do disagree with BP, though in saying that porn will prevent one from cheating. Maybe it's a guy thing, but I don't watch porn because I rather be with some stranger than my partner. The desire for cheating cannot be done away with by watching porn. If that was truly the case, I'd have a problem with my boyfriend/husband watching porn - if he only watched it because he wants to be with other women, but can't due to our committment....

I've always found it particularly curious that (in the US at least) it is perfectly acceptable for a guy to have a stripper at his bachelor party, but the next day all his porn should go out the window. On the one hand it is accepted and understood that a guy has sexual desires, on the other, all that should be gone with the exchange of vows. Personally, I find it a lot less threatening for my partner to watch porn at home, than to have a stripper sticking her tush in his face

Oh it doesn't prevent it...it can help though. It's like a pressure-release valve. But its not the only reason to watch. All in all, it's like added spice.

I think that saying watching porn makes someone less likely to cheat on their partner is like saying watching violent films stops people from killing. People will do whatever they want to, and of course the more weak minded may allow themselves to be influenced by the media, but ultimately it is still their decision, still their free choice.

I think that if someone asks their partner to stop doing something it is more of a dominance issue than them specifically having a problem with the thing in question.

Really? So everyone has the strong urge to be violent and kill someone?

I really don't think you can compare sexual urges to that. Someone with that kind of violent urge would be pathological, outside of the norm..whereas sexual urge is the norm.

Porn does give those who watch it some variety, even if artificial. Wanting to have sex with others has nothing to do with whether you want to be with the one you are with. So those that want to stay faithful...they might find it helpful to go this route. Whereas if their spouse tries to keep an iron grip on them and have hissy fits over porn....well I do think that kind of possessiveness is more likely to put that spark of desire to be unfaithful. It drives them away. So it's less about the porn than it is about suffocating someone.

Maybe porn isn't offensive to you, and I don't find it offensive either, but you can't deny that there are plenty of people who find it to be. It's not the actual sex that's offensive at all, its the theme of dominance over women that runs through it. Not all of it obviously, but some. That's the attitude I was talking about.

Absolutely! It's just as degrading for the men as it is for the women. Watching people have sex when you have no emotional connection whatsoever, just for your own pleasure is objectification to me. Its practically ingrained in society though, what else are photo shoots for celebrities for. I've just observed that people find porn to just take that to a different level that some people might find unacceptable, that's all.

yes it is objectification in that sense , which i dont have a problem with (porn) what i have a problem with is idiots like madonna or kylie , britney , using their boidies to sell "music" they are the real whores.

Yup, but that's the nature of that kind of celebrity. Oh well, each to his own I guess

Don't put Britney in the same sentence as Madonna or Kylie. Madonna's public persona I don't care much for..but she deserves every bit of respect for her live stage work...Kylie is no exception. Britney is pure product from top to bottom and her shows are recycled from everyone elses...any glimmer of brilliance is attributed entirely to professionals behind the scenes.

And finally...you don't think Jon uses his face to sell the music, never mind his body to sell clothes? No double standards.

well i didnt mention jon but theres not much he can do but wear a mask i guess but that would be a bit weird.
maybe madonna isnt comparable to spears or kylie. but i would question the "live" aspect of her shows when she is widely known to lip sync !