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arrogant, yeah sometimes, fascist, maybe a little but i'll always give my honest opinion and don't see y i should be attacked for my opinion on this since i don't think it's out of order.

if we started shipping all the filthy beggars over to greece im sure u'd change ur tune but as fart as i know greece is one of the countries thats going to reap the benefits of becoming part of the joke that is referred to as the EU.

European Union? i belong to one union only and it consists of Scotland, England, Ulster and Wales.
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er Ugly Queen, you made a statement in which you blatently said you think Europe is more civilised than the middle east. Theres no two ways about it
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young people? hold ur horses there gramps at the ripe old age of 21.

w0ots this got to do with the middle east apart from the fact that thats where most of the leeches come from. as i said i have no problem with countries from the eu or the people within them, i do have a problem with them coming here to ride the gravy train.

and as i pointed out in my 2nd post. u won't find many Britains, french< germans etc... going to other countries to scrounch off of their benefits system so yes i do think there are some countries with more pride and dignity than others.
i include myself to the young people but not to the ignorant .
anyway do you know how much a country's economy is benefited by the immigrants? if it wasn't no country would let them in. besides that it's down to its country's policy whether they accept immigrants or not so if you want to blame someone blame your country and not the poor people who search for a better life. if you were born to some other country would that make you less smart or less important? that's what you mean?
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not the poor people who search for a better life.
yeah, and they come through 10 other European countries just to come here because...? oh, they get an easier ride
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to put it simply imagine just for a minute that tony blair says hey weve had enough lets stop the bastards coming in. do u actually thinkit would stop any of the gypsies and do u think the international community would allow it? ****ing hell man people will try to swim across the channels shipping lanes in dinghys theys made out of planks of wood.

i'm not ignorant, i have a wide awareness of what happens to our country poltically and economically speaking but as far as ignorance goes, no one can really comment on this until they've got it happening to them. it's all fine and well to say it when no ones coming to your country but up ur benefits and they'll come in droves.

sorry but a countries economy is not benefitted by people cashing in giro's and begging out ont he streets. hell a triad war is about to break out in glasgow cos they've been getting these vermin into the country then forcing them to work in their restuarants or as prostitutes to pay them back. but now theyve brought so many in that even the jobs the triads make them do are becoming scarce so they're all fighting between themselves to get some edge.

goose is correct that u did indeed imply that westerners were better than people from the middle east by talking about the civilised world then going on about people in the middle eats reading it.

and for the final comment. u think im going to sit here and say hey i wouldnt mind being a turk or spaniard? it's not going to happen. i'm proud to be British always have been, always will be and i have no problem with saying that i think Britain along with several other countries are better than other ones.
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arrogant, yeah sometimes, fascist, maybe a little but i'll always give my honest opinion and don't see y i should be attacked for my opinion on this since i don't think it's out of order.

if we started shipping all the filthy beggars over to greece im sure u'd change ur tune but as fart as i know greece is one of the countries thats going to reap the benefits of becoming part of the joke that is referred to as the EU.

European Union? i belong to one union only and it consists of Scotland, England, Ulster and Wales.
now that's why i call you ignorant. study some history it won't do you any harm. and please not hitler's book it's not considered as a credible historical source.
greece is a member of the EU for many many years now but you couldn't possibly know that, right?
but hey unless you really think that the EU is great britain...
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greece is a member of the EU for many many years now but you couldn't possibly know that, right?
despite its slightly questionable human rights record
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greece, cyprus, i knew one of them was joining big deal.

u seem to think i have some sort of fascination with hitler for some reason. what i'm saying is what pretty much every other Brit thinks about the current state of affairs (and what a state the place is in) it just so happens that some people don't speak out about it for obvious reasons and some do.

as for the remark about me only belong to one union, it was making a point that i regard myself as British and don't buy into the idea of a european superstate to counter the US's power.

i dunno man irony is just lost on some people.
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and let me inform you that greece has many immigrants from the east countries and people complain here too but the government needs them cause they're cheap workers so they keep coming. but who's to blame? them or the government?
you can't judge someone because he was born in a poor country and he wants to find a better life neither you can judge him by his skin colour or his nationality....
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when have i once said anything about their skin colour? i've made several attempts to point out that i dont have a problem with nationalities, just people from countries whoc ome here for an easy ride.

as far as i'm concerned if you're prepared to come thousands of miles through dozens of countries then sneaking acreoss the channel into Britain cla9im asylum instead of going to the nearest safe country then u can;t have been in that much danger int he 1st place or you'd be glad of the 1st place that gave you shelter.

if someones from a poor country, whats stopping them making a success of themselves in their country? going somewhere where your not wanted by most of the population and scrounging off of their welfare system doesn;t constitute looking for a better way of life to me.
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