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Old 12-28-2003, 09:40 PM
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US is not a christian country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I think you will find it is!

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ah, no it isn't. In the US, religion is separated from the state. Thus, all different kinds of religion is welcome and none are singled out. Why would you say that it is? Because a lot of people are christians? That does not make a country a certain faith.

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If America wasnt a Christian Country, the Zealot George Bush wouldnt be in power. America was based upon Christian principles in Law and Culture.
So, all christians voted for Bush and that is how he came to power???

whew - far far out there


If the majority of a country is made of up of a certain religion, if the leader is of a certain religion, if your principles and laws are based on a certain religion then the country is classed as based in that religion. USA is christian based and therefore seen as a christain country. Why do you think certain muslim countries dont accept the USA or anything to do with it ?

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On last nights news ,all UK schools and hospitals are now suppose to provide halal (religious cut meat). Id like to think that the people with religious beliefs that effect their food would pay extra for the UK providing this food to them, but I doubt that will happen!
After all - its not like any of them contribute to the economy in any way
5% of UK is Asian apparently, let me tell you it doesnt feel like this in a lot of towns!
How big is the uK population?? 59.2 million in the UK. Hence 5% = 2.96 million people. That is a significant number of people that contribute to this country, both services, economy & taxes.

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So for 5% of the population we are now to change UK food menus in hospitals/schools, when we cant even afford to keep wards open !
So do you feel we should integrate them into the multicultured society that we are - are leave them at arms length?

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Point, if we start providing precise food menus for apparent minority religions where will it stop. Remember that these religions are already provided for under the vegatarian dishes.
If they live here & contribute as much to this country as everyone else, why shouldn't they be catered for?

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I think its ok to provide for all religious taste as long as they pay for this separately. So we can out more money forward to the up keep of hospitals and schools.
So why not get rid of all the Christmas plays? That'd free up some money. Like it or not, they are as much a part of this country as you or me.

The only reason this is a christian country, is because our Queen is the state head of religion. This dates back to Henry VIII. Many people argue it should be like the US, where there is no centrally controlled religion - & each religion is independent.
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Dawn, for a supposed practicing christian, your views are based on fairly racist attitudes.
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Dawn, for a supposed practicing christian, your views are based on fairly racist attitudes.
Why Richie because I want to spend the countries money on beds and books rather than religious diets !!!!!!!!! I would say the same for any other religious type of food diet being put in front of childerns need for books and ill patients needs for beds.

Why does that suddenly make me racist?

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So for 5% of the population we are now to change UK food menus in hospitals/schools, when we cant even afford to keep wards open !

So do you feel we should integrate them into the multicultured society that we are - are leave them at arms length? QUOTE MIKE .

I feel we do try and intergrate them into the english society ,unfortunately a lot of the minorities do not want to be intergrated , they refuse to learn English, they will only allow their childern to go to mainly minority attended schools.

I dont see how your comments relate to whether they get halal meat at school , getting halal meat at school will make them feel more ingrated?
There are lots of people who diets and needs are not addressed in this country why are we suddenly addressing the need for halal meat over the need for books and hospital beds. The books and hospital beds would also be used by all childern from all walks of life.

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Why Richie because I want to spend the countries money on beds and books rather than religious diets !!!!!!!!! I would say the same for any other religious type of food diet being put in front of childerns need for books and ill patients needs for beds.

Why does that suddenly make me racist?
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because you dare to say what you think instead of hiding behind ****ing PC bullshit, regardless of if its racist or not, anyone that speaks out against PC crap is obviously a racist
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I cant do all these quote things , so here is the 2nd answer to one of your questions Mike.

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I think its ok to provide for all religious taste as long as they pay for this separately. So we can out more money forward to the up keep of hospitals and schools.

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So why not get rid of all the Christmas plays? That'd free up some money. Like it or not, they are as much a part of this country as you or me.

Mike, xmas plays are part of this christian based country, and so are Divali (festival of light) plays. Both are here in this country and celebrated widely

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(The only reason this is a christian country, is because our Queen is the state head of religion. This dates back to Henry VIII. Many people argue it should be like the US, where there is no centrally controlled religion - & each religion is independent.)

How can each religion be independent or no centrally controlled religion when the US laws are based on christian religion? You dont see Muslims stoning there cheating wifes in US do you?

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Why Richie because I want to spend the countries money on beds and books rather than religious diets !!!!!!!!! I would say the same for any other religious type of food diet being put in front of childerns need for books and ill patients needs for beds.

Why does that suddenly make me racist?
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because you dare to say what you think instead of hiding behind **** PC bullshit, regardless of if its racist or not, anyone that speaks out against PC crap is obviously a racist
I have to agree with you Goose.

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Why Richie because I want to spend the countries money on beds and books rather than religious diets !!!!!!!!! I would say the same for any other religious type of food diet being put in front of childerns need for books and ill patients needs for beds.

Why does that suddenly make me racist?
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because you dare to say what you think instead of hiding behind **** PC bullshit, regardless of if its racist or not, anyone that speaks out against PC crap is obviously a racist
I have to agree also. The word racist is used much to freely these days.
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US is not a christian country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I think you will find it is!

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ah, no it isn't. In the US, religion is separated from the state. Thus, all different kinds of religion is welcome and none are singled out. Why would you say that it is? Because a lot of people are christians? That does not make a country a certain faith.

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If America wasnt a Christian Country, the Zealot George Bush wouldnt be in power. America was based upon Christian principles in Law and Culture.
So, all christians voted for Bush and that is how he came to power???

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If the majority of a country is made of up of a certain religion, if the leader is of a certain religion, if your principles and laws are based on a certain religion then the country is classed as based in that religion. USA is christian based and therefore seen as a christain country. Why do you think certain muslim countries dont accept the USA or anything to do with it ?

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sorry but you are just plain WRONG! and no, the muslims do NOT hate Americans because they are christians, for crying out loud. Give them a bit more credit than that!

btw, do you know what faith George Bush belongs to???
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