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Old 02-21-2004, 07:06 PM
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I have never considered the marriage as a religious thing. Lots of people only marriage for the law and not in the church. (At least, that's what happens in Holland a lot).
Ur right on this, and I also dont see a marriage as a religious thing.

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I see the marriage as a commitment to each other. It's a symbol that you want to spend the rest of your life with someone. Basically, nothing changes when you get married, but I see it as a symbol. Both for gay as for non-gay people.
I totaly agree with you.

And also for married ppl there are a lot of things u got a right to when, for example, 1 dies.
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I can imagine that gay people want to marry for several reasons beside Love, like taxes law (married people have some benefits when it comes to taxes or inheritancea) or just as simple things as becoming infos when their partner is in hospital. Only the wife/husband and close family get infos when someone is in hospital.
Thats what I mean ...

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Good!! If two people love eacother they should beable to marry. If they are gay, straight, black, white, blue, human, animal ( you get my point...)
Amen to this !!
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From another angle, what is the point of a gay marriage?

Marriage consolidates a relationship in front of god. If the people getting married were christian, they wouldn't be gay as its against their religion.
Basicly you're saying that when you're gay you can't be Christian ?

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I have never considered the marriage as a religious thing. Lots of people only marriage for the law and not in the church. (At least, that's what happens in Holland a lot).
Ur right on this, and I also dont see a marriage as a religious thing.

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I see the marriage as a commitment to each other. It's a symbol that you want to spend the rest of your life with someone. Basically, nothing changes when you get married, but I see it as a symbol. Both for gay as for non-gay people.
I totaly agree with you.

And also for married ppl there are a lot of things u got a right to when, for example, 1 dies.
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I can imagine that gay people want to marry for several reasons beside Love, like taxes law (married people have some benefits when it comes to taxes or inheritancea) or just as simple things as becoming infos when their partner is in hospital. Only the wife/husband and close family get infos when someone is in hospital.
Thats what I mean ...

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Good!! If two people love eacother they should beable to marry. If they are gay, straight, black, white, blue, human, animal ( you get my point...)
Amen to this !!
You say all this, but is it possible to be lawfully married without a vicar?

This is more arguing that there should a complete upheavel of marriage & it should be separated from religion (which is what it was originally there for) completely. But then who will be qualified to marry two people?? The majority of the marriage rights would have to be changed as they celebrate christianity. Only then can you start arguing that anyone, regardless of faith can be married.
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I'm a Christian but I have nothing against homosexuality and gay marriage. Do I think that people who are gay can't be Christians? No. I don't believe religion should get in the way of love and marriage. Love and marriage is between the two people involved, not between them and God. They are people just like everyone else and should have rights like everyone else. I agree that it is unnatural, but I think people should have the right to chose who they love and who they marry.
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This is more arguing that there should a complete upheavel of marriage & it should be separated from religion (which is what it was originally there for) completely. But then who will be qualified to marry two people?? The majority of the marriage rights would have to be changed as they celebrate christianity. Only then can you start arguing that anyone, regardless of faith can be married.
Marriage here is complete separated from religion. A preacher here can't marry people legally, you have to go to the registry office at your town. If you marry in a church is something you add for your own pleasure but the marriage in the church means legally nothing.
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This is more arguing that there should a complete upheavel of marriage & it should be separated from religion (which is what it was originally there for) completely. But then who will be qualified to marry two people?? The majority of the marriage rights would have to be changed as they celebrate christianity. Only then can you start arguing that anyone, regardless of faith can be married.
Marriage here is complete separated from religion. A preacher here can't marry people legally, you have to go to the registry office at your town. If you marry in a church is something you add for your own pleasure but the marriage in the church means legally nothing.
I didn't know that. What do you say in place of your wedding vowels??

Also, I imagine it must be quite easy to get a divorce in Germany....?
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Arnie ****ed up. He had his chance, but he ****ed up know. I know that many people in San Francisco were proud of the fact that gay marriages were allowed there, and know the governator goes and declares them illegal. Not a good way to start the term.

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This is more arguing that there should a complete upheavel of marriage & it should be separated from religion (which is what it was originally there for) completely. But then who will be qualified to marry two people?? The majority of the marriage rights would have to be changed as they celebrate christianity. Only then can you start arguing that anyone, regardless of faith can be married.
Marriage here is complete separated from religion. A preacher here can't marry people legally, you have to go to the registry office at your town. If you marry in a church is something you add for your own pleasure but the marriage in the church means legally nothing.
I didn't know that. What do you say in place of your wedding vowels??

Also, I imagine it must be quite easy to get a divorce in Germany....?
It is the same thing in Holland. You cannot only marry in the church. It is only legal when you go to the registry office.

It is also quite easy to divorce. However, you must be married for at least 3 months (not sure if it's 3 months, but there is a minimum I think) and when you want to divorce, you must consult a notary or a lawyer.
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If Gay people want to be legally bound to each other use a lawyer , its as simple as that.

Gay people want to be able to marry to show they are part of average normal society, ie they would be accepted more by others.

I disagree as a christian with Gay marriage.

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Gay people want to be able to marry to show they are part of average normal society, ie they would be accepted more by others.

I disagree as a christian with Gay marriage.
So you mean that you don't think that guy people are part of the average normal society? Or are you only against the gay marriage?

I'm not asking this to offend you, everyone may have his/her own opinion. I am just curious.
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